Exhibit #11

Amanda Wells wrote the following on her facebook page:

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Amanda Wells writes:
My favourite of all favourites. I loved Christmas in the Domain as a kid going to Carols by Candlelight just so I could hear it and sing along.

Note: Carols in the Domain first began in 1983. By our arithmetic, that would have Wells in her very late 20’s. How then did she go and sing along when she “was a kid”? Thanks to our eagle- eyed followers for catching this. 

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Enabler #8

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Pastors Nigel and Nicky Langford are enablers of Amanda Wells. They are also apart of the network Christian Growth International founded by Rick and Bev Murrill.


From the Hub church website:
http://www.hubchurch.co.uk/Groups/266872/Our_History.aspx

“Our History
Over a period of time God spoke to Nigel and Nicky Langford about planting a church into North East London. In January 2014 it seemed to pick up a pace and over the following six months God spoke really clearly on a number of occasions. One night in January 2014 Nigel was looking at Google maps and found Woodford zooming out at him. It had been a long day but still this was quite impacting. Just a few weeks later when watching the TV they were asking God about whether Woodford was the right area. On that particular day there was a tube strike and the reporter was stationed at South Woodford underground station. It started to feel more than a coincidence.

On 13th September 2014 Nigel and Nicky were travelling on the central line into London. As they chatted and wondered if God was really leading them to Woodford they noticed that the tube station for Woodford on the map was huge

It continued this way and so Nigel & Nicky went to the Senior Leaders of their church in Chelmsford and shared their hearts. It resonated and so they intentionally moved toward being sent. In April 2015 and over the summer period a team of people along with the Langford’s moved up to South Woodford starting a small group (or Hub) in their lounge. In October 2015 Hub Church was commissioned to begin as a church plant.

As time is elapsing more Hubs are multiplying and that is how we see the church growing into whatever plans and purposes God has for us in the London area. We are convinced that when people meet Jesus the course of their lives and the course of history can and will change.”

Bev Murrill is tied with Nigel as you can see for yourself here: Bev Murrill  FB

October 14, 2015

“I have personally worked with Nigel for almost 10 years and have found him to be an outstanding leader, leadership developer and consultant. He and I were on a board of directors together and Nigel’s input many times was exactly the wisdom needed to find solutions to challenges and complex situations.

His capacity for visionary leadership, both in his own actions and the development of same in others, is outstanding. If you could do with the expert support of a truly outstanding leadership practitioner, Nigel is your man. I couldn’t recommend him more highly.”

Here is an endorsement by Nigel Langford from YouTube of Bev Murrill. This appears to be a mutual admiration society.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vrpsgvc8jnU

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Our question for Nigel Langford would be is why he seems to be able to receive messages more clearly from God through a Tube station map than he obviously does from reading his Bible? If God indeed spoke to Nigel and Nicky Langford about setting up a church, is it likely He would not speak to them about protecting the sheep in their care from wolves? Is it likely that He would not have warned them that they were inviting a wolf in to the sheepfold in order to protect that which He had instructed them to set up? Of course those in leadership positions in churches should check the credentials of those coming into their churches to speak to their congregations; of that there is no question.  So why would any diligent Pastor invited anyone into his church to spin yarns, tell lies, mock God and use the pulpit as an opportunity for a stand-up comedy routine? And why would such a Pastor cheer on such a wolf in such acts. This is a question which must be asked and answered by the congregation at the Hub and other churches in Christian Growth International network to which Nigel Langford himself is at times invited to be a guest speaker. In this article, we have posted an entire transcribed talk given to this church by Amanda Wells in which she is encouraged and applauded for her absolute errant nonsense. Reading it will quickly alert people to just how serious this issue is.



Below is a screenshot of the sermon Wells preached at HUB Church in Chelmsford, England. Note that it was preached on June 15th, 2016 which was FIVE MONTHS AFTER Amanda Wells had been publicly exposed as The Culprit in the Pulpit” by Churchwatch Central. 

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If you would like to download and listen to Amanda Wells’ “sermon” then go here:
http://www.hubchurch.co.uk/Media/AllMedia.aspx?speaker=Amanda%20Wells

Before you delve into reading Wells’ absurd “sermon”, keep in mind that capital letters have generally not been used when referring to the three of the Trinity as we do not believe that the deity referred to by Wells is not the God of the Bible.

[Moderator’s note:]
It is imperative to make note of this.  In this talk, Amanda Wells continually makes reference to “the commission” and several times contends that it, “the commission”, is to “raise the dead, heal the sick and cast out demons”.  This is totally erroneous teaching and typical of so many untrained and unqualified individuals these days who twist the scriptures to suit their own agendas. 

Wells totally ignores the entire context of this “commission” and chooses to only quote the small section that will provide her with a foundation for her ridiculous claims which she makes through anecdotes and yarns which are a hallmark of her appearances to date.  Taking isolated phrases out of context in order to spread a false gospel is a dangerous action and should be widely condemned by the body of Christ.  As can be heard on this taped piece and is noted in the transcription, there are repetitive interjections by a male all though this talk and it is assumed to be the voice of the “pastor” of the church.  Given the absolute nonsense that was spoken on this occasion and the fact that the claims of what the Bible teaches are totally false it is of great concern that men in this church are not only subjecting themselves to teaching from a woman but applauding and endorsing such false teaching.

For the record: The Great Commission was given to the eleven apostles and reads as follows:

Matthew 28:16-20 (ESV)

Now the eleven disciples went to Galilee, to the mountain to which Jesus had directed them.  And when they saw him they worshiped him, but some doubted. And Jesus came and said to them, ‘All authority in heaven and on earth has been given to me. Go therefore and make disciples of all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father and of the Son and of the Holy Spirit, teaching them to observe all that I have commanded you. And behold, I am with you always, to the end of the age.'”

The “commission” which Wells is speaking of is the instruction Jesus gave to the twelve as he sent them out to preach the gospel.  Note as is common with fake teachers, the taking out of context of the verse she has used and the deliberate elimination of the complete instructions. We have highlighted the words conveniently ignored by Wells.  It is clear why she left them out. 

Matthew 10:5-10 (ESV)

These twelve Jesus sent out, instructing them, “Go nowhere among the Gentiles and enter no town of the Samaritans, but go rather to the lost sheep of the house of Israel. And proclaim as you go, saying, ‘The kingdom of heaven is at hand. Heal the sick, raise the dead, cleanse lepers, cast out demons. You received without paying; give without pay.  Acquire no gold or silver or copper for your belts, no bag for your journey, or two tunics or sandals or a staff, for the laborer deserves his food.”

For a more in depth teaching on the Great Commission listen to Pastor Chis Rosebrough’s lecture:
https://c3churchwatch.com/2016/01/31/what-noise-will-you-make-in-2016/

Speaker: AMANDA WELLS

“Well, it is so good to be here tonight….. amongst ….. friends….. and..um. that’s what’s awesome .. and..ah… you are friends….. and God is doing so much…. uh …. just before I [indecipherable]

Unidentified woman:

“Do y….. you want to lift the table …. to put some of your stuff on?”

AMANDA WELLS:

Oh, wouldn’t that be awesome?  It’s like a handbag here……… we’ve got everything  …eh…ah.. you know I was upstairs before in the Lord……  ha………and he just started to speak to me about things which…… um ………. I’ll go to in a minute….. um….. I do have some products….. well I don’t….. ‘cause you can’t buy these…um……. that’s a shame isn’t it?

[audience laughs: Wells holds up her plagiarised products]

Ah….. y….you can order them ..we’ve just run out.  It’s been crazy um…… and so … you can order and I’m posting over.

That one is “Biblical numbers” ….. ya ever wonder why ………..God speaks in numbers …….everything’s numbers…… his Hebrew is number …. and … uh … you know like on the third day …. on the sixth month ….  and…..why does he say that…. because everything ….. is a number and I go through … what they mean ….. and it’s not… what we thought

Discerning of Spirits …… that’s a brand new one that I’ve just done ..uh… 6 ways to discern and …and a whole lot of things.  There’s DVD’s and CD’s in there.

And Dreams.  How you dream ….. why you dream. ….  um….. most men don…..say they don’t dream ….  that’s a  problem .. you’ve said it……… break that off ….. break those wounds off….. you do dream …. God speaks to us in dreams ….even nightmares….. uh …. ah…. ……… …. God actually ….. s… uh …… the spirit is speaking to us telling us where there is an open door ….…. and we need to close  it.

And uh………… There Shall Be No Poor Among You. That was an encounter I had with a ….  Jew on the plane.  I …. I  don’t do planes.  I  do do too many planes….. and I’m talked out when I get to a plane …. and so when I get on a plane……. I don’t wanna talk to anyone. I wanna sit by the window and go to sleep.  That’s it …

01:50     And so ….. I’m on a plane and…. and I put my book up like this ‘cause I know someone’s gonna sit next to me…. [indecipherable]  ….. and ….. uh ……….  this man sits next to me and he says “Hello”.  I said “Hello”

He said “Where are you going?”

I said “The plane’s going to Paris. I hope I am too.” And… uh …. and then he said “So what do you do for a living”  [audience laughter] ….. I’m like nooooohhhhhhh ….. NOT TODAY!  So I thought I would give him the gospel in three seconds.. you know like “I’m a …. I’m a Pastor..da… da… da…da …….

He said, “WO.O.O.W!”

I’m like…. no……..

He said, “I’m a Jew!”

I’m like, “Great!”

I said, “Oh, my ….my  husband’s part Jew.”

And he said, “Does he follow the ……. [indecipherable]?”

I said “No, he doesn’t……   blow trumpets…… nothing like that………

Anyway …….. I said ………. “So what do you do?”

He said, “I’m …. I’m one of the biggest shoe makers in the world …. I make shoes for Jimmy Choo…. Guess….. Armani …………”

I am woman …. I love shoes ……….

[Indecipherable interjection from man in audience (perhaps Pastor?) and then uproarious laughter from him and others at whatever it is he said] 

And so we … we started to talk …….

And it was in 2007 …as …. the Financial Crisis was about to hit.

And as we were landing I said “So how has this Financial Crisis hit your business?  And he looked at me and I’ll never forget the look . I can’t even do it.

He looked at me and he said, “I’m a Jew!  I’m blessed!”

[Exclamation from audience and laughter]

03:08     And I……. okay ………… you know I’ve heard Christians say  [adopts high pitched mocking voice] “I’m a Christian…. I’m blessed!” And I didn’t believe them.

Ah…. but …..there was something about him.  So I wanted to find out how they do money.  So … that is something I do …….. uh…..uh…. I’ve written a book on it and……. (This book, “There Shall Be No Poor Among you,” contains plagiarised material) um …….. I also have just come out of …… a…. we do the School of … um …… we do the School of the Supernatural ….. but I don’t do that one ………… I do a Prophetic School ….. which is twelve weeks…… and ….uh ……we do have those figures… but I don’t have them here …. you can order them and there are….. twelve DVD’s………….and we do twelve weeks of it … and it’s been amazing…. I thought we’d only get about 5 this time ‘cause we forgot to advertise ….. and um ……. we had 97…. [Moderator’s Note: 97 people were capable of sitting through Wells’ lectures?] and it was amazing …… so they’ve asked for an extension…. they want …….er…. term 2 … another twelve weeks …. so we’ll do that ……. and it’s …. it’s like God is really moving …. but …… so you can get those

04.00    But what I want to talk about tonight is how God is doing here in England particularly… ‘cause I am so excited ………  I’ve just been here for …. I was here for three weeks ……. I went to Nepal….. and then um …..  went home….. went here for about three weeks ……. and then went home for two and half weeks ……….. and now I’m back again ……. and one of the reasons is I’m so excited with what God is doing …… he’s doing something here …… and……… uh ………… I hardly wanna leave ……….. because I can feel it ………..and I know ……. he is ….. it’s so exciting ……….so let’s just pray.

“Father I just thank you tonight.  Papa ..… we just love you ………. we just thank you …………we just give you glory and honour Lord …. we say thank you Father.  I thank you Lord for what you are doing here……… in this nation ……. and Father ……….. we just want to do whatever you wanna do tonight ………Lord…. what …. what do you wanna do?  Make it clear to us …… because …. right here we’re in the domain of the kingd…  Your kingdom…….. the domain of the king ..… is here.  So you’re here …… your territory ……….. is here…….. show us where you’re going….. and what you’re doing ….. let us partner with you…..

Father we thank you that ………..heaven ….is ….. is not far away ……….. heaven is here ………

Haaaaahhhhhhh …………..we just…. we just bring heaven …..  to earth….. that’s who we are.  Father I thank you……  your will …….. every ……. every part of your will will be done ……… today ……….. in this meeting ……….

And father we just thank you …….. I thank you by faith already for what you are going to do.

I thank you for the supernatural breaking out [indecipherable]…..  YOU LOVE IT!

And we just declare over this part of London …………. that this is a supernatural city … a supernatural city……….  and father we just give you honour and glory ………. tonight….. in Jesus’ name………. thank you……… thank you ………….. thank you ………. Daddy…. [Moderator’s Note: John 8:44] AMEN. AMEN ……

Ah….. you know …….. I… uh ……. so …… revival ….. and…. and I call it that ….. but………….   in some ways I’m loathe to call revival revival……. and I’ll tell you why…..because when we think of revival … usually  we think of getting …………. you know ……. all these sinners just getting saved [Moderators Note: So she hates Repentance the Forgiveness of sins?]

And …. if you  look here …. most of your revivals have always been ……. um ………. where .. it….. it’s …. the …. the whole context has been sinners.

I don’t’ like ca ….. calling myself a sinner …… I am a sinner saved by grace …….. I am not a sinner any more …. I might sin ….. but that’s not who I am………. [Moderator’s Note: 1 Timothy 1:15-17]

[interjection by male, possibly Pastor…] “No [indecipherable”]

I was a lost daughter ……. who needed a father …….. and a father found me ….. and …… he …  took me to another place ……….. his presence……….. because sin was not my home.

And I think this …….. move of God…….  that is happening……. is …….  a move of God where you’re …….. you’re gonna see the father like you’ve never seen him before.  We’re gonna see the supernatural……….

07:06  We ……….. we were in Scotland ….. an …. and the hunger for God ……… in that church ……….  an Elim church ….. powerful hunger for God ……………. it was amazing …. and….er …. … …. you know …… like we …we were up …. the … the ….in the green room ……. we forgot to come down ……. after lunch …….. and…… and we came down …… and the people are there and they are just ……….. they’re already there ……… they’re already hungry ……….. they’re already worshipping.

And uh ……….. th…just …. God just broke out ………. we’re in Bournemouth ….. God just broke out ………. before getting healed ……… people.. you know …… the supernatural was breaking out.……. it’s everywhere…. it’s England ………you’re in the middle of it ……….  and I think that ……. you can feel it in the ground.  I don’t wanna go home because I KNOW that it’s here.

A… and so ….. I …. I wanna talk a bit about that tonight………. because God is wanting the church….. to release the commission.  What is the commission?  No matter what you do ….. whether you’re an engineer ….. whether you’re a Pastor……. whether you’re a teacher …… or whether you’re in business ……….. you have been called to do three things … raise the dead…… heal the sick ………. cast out demons.

So if you’re a s…. a teacher …….. raise the dead…….. heal the sick …….. cast out demons …………. you know …. I ….. I was in .. I was in [indecipherable] ….  we went shopping for ten hours ……. and yes men I know …….. don’t say a word …….. ten hours …….and an hour of that was in [indecipherable] ……. I don’t know why ………. we were at Westfield…… it’s awesome there …….. I love it ……….. and uh ………… n….anyway I think we had raced back in to get something ……… and… there were ….. there were wall to wall people everywhere … you know there was just people …….. and they were all lined up ready to go ………… and I get to the till …….. and this Muslim girl says to me ………. um ……….. I said to her “Hi! How are you today?” ………. and ……… she said “ Oh…..” she said “ I’ll be better at 5 o’clock … she said “I’m fasting …. I ….. I can eat at five” ….. and I suddenly thought …… .oh, it’s Ramadan ………. that’s why no one’s around …… and …um …. and uh I said “Oh wow!”  I said, “I’m a Christian…… and uh …….. I… uh …. you know……….. we….. we fast also”.

And she said “Well, why do you fast”……..  I said “because of Jesus….. “ and I’m thinking …….. I’ve got a million people behind me ……… and I’m trying to give her a  ….. you know …………she’s asked me about Jesus.  I spoke to her for a few minutes, and she’s really engaging with me …. didn’t wanna go.  And I’m thinking… that’s how easy it is …… right now ………. they’re ready …….. this was a Muslim girl in Ramadan……. and she’s asking ME about Jesus ….. and I’m thinking I cross my fingers because … you know ……I don’t really like fasting that much………. I’ll be honest ……. but [indecipherable……………..]  I’m … “Jesus please forgive me”…….

[Moderator’s Note: The Muslim girl asked Wells why she fasted, NOT about Jesus.]

[Note Wells’ contradiction regarding how there were no people because of Ramadan and then “a million people” were behind her.]

[audience laughter]

And …….. and………… then…. you know …….. as she left because Jesus said, “heal the sick, raise the dead, cast out demons”. The church have been trying to pray on the  …. let’s just go out on the street and pray for everyone.  You know what he said to do….. that ….  Gee!  that’s hard isn’t it!

10:00     I just released the presence of God!  I release him….. heal the sick……. so as I’m going….. I… I grabbed her by the hand ….. you know ……… as she’s giving me the parcel ….. I just grabbed her ….. looked in her eyes …. and I just released the presence of god …… [Moderator’s Note: Since it is impossible for anyone to release the presence of God since he is omnipotent, is THIS what Wells really meant? Revelation 20:7] because I thought ….. there is a sick………. system…. b….. within her. 

[Moderators note:  So Amanda Wells claims to have the power to release the presence of God?]

It’s a sick system……….. whether she’s sick in her physical body……. there’s something sick in her …… d’you know what I mean ….. it’s a…….i… if you’re a teacher ……….. there’s a sick system here……….. there’s a sick government here……….. there’s a sick … uh . u ….. business …. the way they do business….. let’s start to do the commission … (claps her hands) ……  let’s lay hands on the sick ………….. [audience interjection] …….. and release him…… (claps hands again) …. and ….. see …… them …. healed.

That’s it ……… we see people healed all the time.  Our church is a church where we are just seeing healings………. every week………… I mean this one got healed……… behind the sound desk … and I think she might have been on Facebook [audience laughter] …….. uh… she was on the phone…… [audience laughter] … and.. there was a word of knowledge ……….. she didn’t even go forward ….. she got massively healed.. [claps hands] right there … just like that.

We’re seeing deaf people healed all the time [Moderator’s Note: Have the local Deaf Communities been notified?] .. an …. and we’re …. we’re seeing people healed in England.  That’s it.  Gee that’s easy.  I just release him.  As he is, so am I.  An…… and …. I …I believe we are to start to release the commission.

So what’s the commission?  His mission……….. and we just co-operate with it.  That’s all we do.  Uh…uh . we…. we cooperate with what he’s doing  ……we….and.. and the supernatural ……….MUST  come ….. and must happen …… out of intentions now and not need.

[male voice interjects]

The church’s been praying for need …. you know …. just give me this …… give …..

Get out of that …. you know … when I’m just releasing him …. he HAS to meet my need …..  and I believe the church has to become so intentional …. WHAT DO YOU WANT?

12:03 You know ….. I’ve been saying now ……. now please …hear what I’m saying and please do not shoot me okay? …….‘cause I’m not saying what you think I’m gonna say.  This vote next week, I believe , is prophetic ……. it’s so funny…. if you stay in the EU you will die on June 24th ….. if you come out you will die on June 24th

How ridiculous!

I …. I want to declare one thing over you.  You are Great Britain.  You are a commonwealth of countries … no matter what you do you cannot …. you CANNOT fail.  You never have….. you never will.  Okay…….  so let’s get that clear.

I2:42     This is a prophetic declaration next week…. and I believe it’s almost for the church.  I’m not saying whether you go in Europe or outa Europe…. I …. I don’t care about that….. that’s  just in the natural.  In the spirit I believe what God is saying  “Are you in this revival or are you out?  Are you in my commission or are you out?  Are you going to step in and say “Yes” or are you going to say “look I’m just gonna do church …. as…. normal?”

And so let’s be intentional.  What do you want in London?  You…. you’re a church plant.  What do you want?  Wa… I wanna see eva…… I wanna see this ……… I wanna see them healed…… come on!……. and …. and…..  so revival is no longer a sovereign move ….. the church has been blaming it on God for so long …….

[adopts mocking voice] “Oh God…  [indecipherable] ……  God’s always moving [male voice interjects “That’s true”!]

It’s like… like Christians … oh God isn’t talking to me … …. what ….. have you gone deaf?…… God is the word …… he continues to talk.

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[male voice interjecting continually]

You’re just not listening …… sorry about that .. but ……. and I’m not ……and  I’m not like Katherine …… I’m sorry [laughs…..  indecipherable] our pastor ………… she’s just beautiful 

[Moderator’s note: reference to Katherine Ruonala of Glory City Church, Brisbane, Queensland]

I always said that she’s Princess Grace and I’m like Crocodile Dundee

[Moderator’s note: Wells often makes a similar comparison between Ruonala and herself in her appearances but more often comparing herself to “Steve Irwin” so what she “always said” is not, in fact, what she has always said.]

Um………. revival is no longer……….a sovereign move …… where God has to do it….. but’s a co-labouring and a partnership with him.

Now…. now this is interesting…. and I just wanna bring this up before I say…I ……. I ……… actually give the message….. but when Jesus fed the five thousand…….. and imagine that day………… you know he wasn’t taken off guard……….. oh man!……… oh boys!………… they’re all hungry ….. what are we going to do………. go down the corner shop and buy some sangers [Australian slang  for sandwiches]  … you know ….. or if you’re up north …… get some  [indecipherable] get some sandwiches boys ……….. you know he partnered with the father straight away partnered with the father…. and…. an….. and first of all we gotta know… what does the father want …… every good father desires to feed his children.  I don’t believe he had to even ask.  He just knew.  He knows the character of the father.  A…. an ……. then the twelve clueless ones ……. which they were ……. are told……. to go ………… to the other side.  You are given a mission boys.

15:00    Jump in the boat ………. go to the other side…………. Now they encounter……… a storm.  And……. or we could say ………. a contradiction ……… and whenever you are given a word from God you will always have …….. a contradiction.

[Moderator’s Note: Chapter and verse please Wells!]

And the contradiction for David …… was David ….. you’re anointed by the prophet as king ….. you are going to be the king ………..  but then ……….. there is a king …… that’s already crowned …………..a mad man ……….. who’s about to kill ‘im.  And he’s already crowned the king.  A contradiction. 

Joseph …. you’ve been given a dream ………. you know what you’re going to do ……. but Joseph ……….. there’s a contradiction ……… you’ve found yourself in a pit and then in ……. in prison.  You know ……… whenever God give you a word ……. you will always have …….. a …… contradiction ….. heh .. that goes with it.

I’m healed ……… but there is a contradiction that goes with it.  Now…. I remember ………. I …. er… years ago …………. when I …… uh ……. in 1995 ……….. I …. ha …. had ……. ay …….. um ………… I needed a … a double transplant operation.

[Moderator’s note:  See under False Personal Claims on this website the questioning of this story which Wells tells repeatedly and has traded off for years.  There was no transplant which involved any other individual – no donor.  And the term “double transplant” is entirely duplicitous.  Note also now how Wells fumbles her words despite having told this story repeatedly over the years…. a classic sign of lying.]

I……….. was in …… in intensive care ……. died on the operating table……….  an it was huge …….. and there was a whole lot of things in it……. now ………… I look like Jaws has bitten me ………. and

[Moderator’s note: Now begins an outrageous yarn which is difficult to transcribe as she continually makes sounds of “vomiting” which can only be transcribed as nearly as possible here as “BByyyeeehhhh”.]

And…….. I was in ….. in the intensive care department …… and there was[sic] two of us  ….. in … the room.  Myself who was violently ill ……….. and another girl who was twenty-six and gonna get her legs … removed the next day.  She was a Mum of two or three children ……… little ones ……….. and I’m,…. I ……… I’m sitting there … and I could not even move my head.

[SITTING??]

I …… if I moved my head….. I would throw up ….. “BByyyeeehhhh”.  Anyway, I’m sitting there and I..… I …I’m about to … thr ….I’m about to … I’m just throwing up ……… I couldn’t move ……… I’ve got drips coming out of my central line …………. and God speaks and says, “Amanda”.

“What?”

“See that girl in the next bed………. go lay hands on ‘er”

[male in audience laughs]

“She’s gonna be healed”.

There’s a contradiction here, God!     Not only am I dying …. “But God… I can’t ……. if I moved my head ……….“BByyyeeehhhh”. ……. I’m sick.

[Moderator’s note: She is dying? Wells has claimed previously when spinning this tale that she died on the operating table and was bought back to life by prayers?  Now she claims to be dying yet again?]

God kept speaking it to me … and I know none of you have ever done this …………. but I said. “there’s a r.……. there’s a …..is there someone else up there …. someone else in charge of the admin department?

[audience laughter]

[Moderator’s note: Audience apparently believed that someone would speak so irreverently to God in this way.  This has now become nothing more than a stand-up comedy routine.]

I’m like… God….. NO! 

Anyway … God …… I…I …. I decided to go to sleep.  That way God wasn’t going to speak to me.

[Moderator’s note:  But doesn’t Wells claim, teach and sell courses on God speaking to us through dreams?

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https://amanda-wells-ministries-online-school.thinkific.com/courses/dream-interpretation-online-school Talk about contradiction!]

I woke up ………… first word I heard……….. “Amanda”.

“WHAT!!!”

[Moderator’s note: Now Wells is screaming with impatience at the God of the universe?]

“Get out of bed and go and pray for that girl”.

And I’m like ….. alright God I’ll go ….. but if I die…. on the way … it’s on your head.

[audience laughter]

[Moderator’s note:  Now Wells is threatening God?  The yarn is becoming more bizarre by the second.]

So I get out of bed ……….. all the way …… “BByyyeeehhhh”… like this … (indecipherable] ….. “BByyyeeehhhh”…….BByyyeeehhhh” …………. and carrying the thing……

I get to her……. it took me twenty minutes …………..

[Moderator’s note: And what were the Intensive Care medical staff doing while Wells struggled, apparently still hooked up to a central line, across a hospital ward for twenty minutes?]

[male in audience laughing]

I said …. [adopts doped up voice] …….. I’m a Christian ……..

[uproarious laughter from audience]

I said …… ah …………… I didn’t have time to muck around…. you know what I mean …… I had to get to the point.

I said …. [doped up voice again] ………. “Honey, God sent me here ……

to lay hands on you”.

[audience laughter]

[Moderator’s note: apparently such a commission is a reason for considerable hilarity in this church]

“And you’re gonna have a miracle.  You better be healed.”   Well she burst into tears …… so would I………….

She said “You won’t believe this…..”

She said “I was watching Kenneth Copeland last week ….. on TV ………..and …… I gave my heart to the Lord……”  and at that point he SAID on TV ….. that if a Christian came …………. and agreed with you in laying hands on you….. you would be healed. I’ve been praying for a Christian”.

I said [doped up voice again] “Have you…..…I’m your answer……“BByyyeeehhhh”

All I did was this…. “Be healed in Jesus’ name” …… and had to get back to bed.  She does down …. gets her tests done

I’m in a contradiction.  I’m still sick …… hours later….. she comes through the door……

[Squeals]…. [squeals again] ……[squeals again] ……….. I’m like ….. what happened?

She said “I’m totally healed”…….  I’m … the gangrene is gone …… totally healed .. I do not need my legs removed.  I’m in a contradiction …….. God gave me a word …………. for her … how come …. she’s healed……….. I’m still sick ….. ubutl now … it wasn’t long .. I just held onto the word. 

And because now I’ve had a double transplant …. and I don’t take any anti-rejection drugs at all. 

[Moderator’s note:  Wells has NEVER  undergone a “double transplant”!]

Last time I SAW my specialist …… was in 2003 ….. he said “Lose weight” ………. I figured I could pay my husband $170.00 to tell me to do that ………… I don’t need him………..

[audience laughter]

And I could go shopping on $170.00 …. heh ………. come ON!

[audience still laughing]

You know …. an…..and then….. so …. they’re…. they’re going to the other side …… and there is a storm …………. now look at this ………. I love this ….. and this isn’t really where we’re going ….. but the Lord spoke to me this afternoon ………….. and this is where I believe England you’re at.  Be careful.  Because right there in Mark 5 ….. it says this……

20:01  If you look at one tiny little scripture  ……  I’m not ….. everything that happens in the storm ………. Jesus is there ……… you know  …. the whole lot happens …… it says this………..

“and their heart …………was hard …. because of the bread”.

Hang on a second!

Yeah! Have a look again … because of the loaves ……… doncha think your heart would be hard because you had a storm?

Doncha think your heart would be hard because you had to walk on water?

Their heart was hard because of the loaves… or because of the bread.  NOT because of the storm ….. but because of the miracle.

Now …………. an ….. and this happens a lot ………… how many people …I…. I ……. we just saw one person …. just a  …………. while ….. not long ago…………. I won’t tell you what church………  but ….. it ………. they ….. they left church …… because there was a miracle in the church ………….

What is that!

I have seen …….. I saw a pastor who actually had an encounter with an angel for seven solid days …… and this was year……… this was when I was ill ……………….. and …………………………..

he was burnt from the inside out ……………..totally healed …………….. and now ……….. he’s on …. drugs….. and …………… alcohol ……….. and far away from God.   

But ………….. what did they miss …….. now they were obedient ….. they were like .. they celebrated the miracle ……. they celebrated the loaves and the fishes ……….. they were filled with wonder ….. but God says they were hard.

They didn’t see ……. that the food didn’t multiply …………. in Jesus hand ………. it multiplied in theirs.

And I think we have to realise …. we lay hands on the sick ………….. He’s not gonna come around and supernaturally ….. I mean I hope he does …… one of our pastors  …… was dying .. they…. they …. they’d alm ….almost  done the last rites….. if you……. well he wasn’t a Catholic …. so that didn’t work ……….. uh ………… he was one of our pastors ……. and they told ………….. his wife, Rochelle … that he would be dead in the morning …… we’re all praying …… and ………..he was in intensive care ……….. he’d just had a massive canc….. stage four cancer operation …….. and for seven hours ……….. Jesus walked in the room and sat with him……….

[male voice interjects “Wow!”]

I…. I’m ….. Oh God …..  come on!  And…. uh …. he…. he talked about everything ….. he talked about his future and right at the very end …………. James says “Well what about my healing?”……. and Jesus looked at him … and said it was insig…insignificant. “ Well……. what about it?  You’re healed” ……..walked out.

But the thing is … he wants us to co-labour with him…………. an…. and he broke the bread …………but he gave it to the twelve clueless ones

[male voice interjects “ Yeah!  That’s really good!]

THEY …. had to do something with the mission … an …. and they distribute it … they saw their prayer answered ………… and ……….. you know …. it….. it’s almost like ……. God …….. I have a need….. but we’ve missed …… the intentional…… partnership  ……….. in the call of God.

And I wanna tell you …… this is an intentional partnership ……… Jesus said “Go to the other side” now ……. the power……… for the commission is present in the declaration. 

What has God told us to do?  Lay hands on the sick ….. raise the dead ………. cast out demons.

[Moderator’s note: What happened to “PREACH THE GOSPEL AND BAPTISE IN HIS NAME”!]

And there is power in that declaration.  And we have a commission that’s totally impossible…… let’s be honest…….. totally impossible!  We the church don’t know the strength of that …… commission …. until it comes under assault.

[male voice interjects “Yeah!”]

And it’s going to come under assault.  As we hit this revival ….. I’m telling you ……… this is a multi-generational revival ………..

I am NOT … one ….. number one ……I told God …… I am NOT going home without seeing it.

[Moderator’s note:  It is actually GOD who decides the number of our days and the hour of birth and death …. Amanda Well’s declaration will have no effect whatsoever on God’s decision.]

I wanna be part of it ……… I’m gonna be mad if I get to Heaven and you guys are all part of it and I’m not ….. and so when I see on Facebook “Oh, Jesus come quickly”… NO!…… I’ll be mad

[Moderator’s note: The last day will hardly be determined by what people declare on Facebook!  This is getting more ludicrous as Wells goes on.]

Don’t come yet!

[audience laughter]

And also.. God ……. Jesus don’t come …………. because there are a lot of unsaved out there.  And I don’t want them going to Hell.  I want a heart o’ compassion.

An ……. and so…………. when God gives you a word…….. and he’s given you a word ………. I want to tell you … that word has to be tested …. it has to be tested ……. “You are my beloved son” ……….. a few days later he’s in the desert with the devil ….. why was it forty days by the way? …….. because the number forty means ……… um ………. breakthrough for every nation ………… for every tongue ……… for every tribe ………. for every culture ………… that’s number forty …… breakthrough ………. to bring redemption ……….. that’s what number forty means.   By the why ……… way ………….

And then suddenly the  devils says…. . “Are you the son?”  So whenever we get a revelation from God ….. there is always a question that will undermine it.

[Moderator’s note:  Chapter and verse ?  This is total nonsense and has no basis in scripture whatsoever.]

And I’m telling you ………… there will be a question that’s going to undermine this revival.  Get ready ……… but ………… it will always undermine the ….. the revelation that’s given…….

25:03  Questions challenge the commission given as ….. questions have no power … unless we give them power ………. unless we empower them …………

Now  …………. that’s not really where I was going tonight…….. but that’s what I felt the Lord … talk ….. to you ….. to you guys about……… but I love this ….. because Jesus didn’t say…. pray for the sick and hope for the best ………… he didn’t say raise the ……. raise the dead and good luck ………. we hope ya’ do it …………. he said “Just do it

[male voice interjects “Yeah”]

………… just  do it!”  He said “Heal them!” Do you know what?  The sad thing ….. is it’s  something we can’t do .. even a doctor……. you cannot heal anybody … without external help!  Yeah …….. I don’t go into the doctor and say “I’ve got a sore throat

They go …..“ooooohhhhhhhhh….”

[audience laughter]

They needs something! ……….  you know ……….we’ve been called to an impossible lifestyle ………. (starts clapping) and I wanna say ……… come on England….. we’ve been called to this lifestyle ………. it’s totally impossible…. [male voice begins to interject] BUT… WE …. CAN ….. DO …. IT……..

[male voice “Yeah!” then (indecipherable)]

It’s impossible apart from the empowering presence of God ……….. and you know tonight I even feel like …..  I ….. I  won’t do it ………… Matt,  you did it for me ……. you jumped on the lounge …. you know ……… I loved it ………… I’d probably would break it …… but like to dance on this table …. and just say COME ON! ……. COME ON! ……. WE CAN DO THIS! You know apart from the presence of God ……. and the command is to put us into a place of dependency ……….. of co-dependency with him.

[male voice interjects “Yeah”]

We act like it’s all us ………….. let’s be real!

Oh no I lay hands on the sick …….. oh, I can’t ………… I don’t have enough faith …….. I had NO faith for that girl in intensive care ……… NOTHING! …………. [male voice interjects “Yah!”] But it was a co-dependent thing ……. he told me to do it ……….. there was power in the commission ………… I knew that it had to come to pass ………… because of that.

Hhhhhhhhhhhherrrrrrrrrrr! I not saying don’t have faith . but I’m saying that’s how we are ………….aw… what if it doesn’t work…………. oh wow!………..

[male laughter]

It doesn’t work!  How many of you have laid hands on the sick an….. an….. and nothing’s happened?  (claps) Yes! Ya still here!

[audience laughter]   Ya failed!   Great!  Alleluia!

[male voice interjects “Yeah”]

[Moderator’s note:  The Bible says that when we lay hands on the sick they will be healed.  Wells and others today appear to be preaching a gospel of “hit and miss”.  these snake oil salesmen are also preaching this philosophy when it comes to prophesy – claiming that you just “have a go” and it doesn’t matter if you get it right or not?  Does this sound like it is from God?]

Ya still here!  And it’s something that we can’t do…..

[Moderator’s note: WHAT??? Are these people actually listening to what she is saying?]

and it’s not because he’s cruel………… but …….. because when he spoke that commission ….. and he said …….. “Nothing is impossible to God” ….. there was power in it.

You know the word “nothing” is ….. no thing broken into two words….. “no” which is no …. and that the Greek word “thing” there ………..is the word “rhema”.  No rhema.  It…it means this ….. the word possible means ability, power and strength….. it can be translated like this ………

28:00     No freshly spoken word of God …. will ever come to you ….. that does not contain … it’s own ability to perform itself.….

[audience interjection indecipherable]

[Moderator’s note: Translated like this by whom?  Source?]

He said we can do it.  Come on! 

[male voice interjects “Yep”]

We can do this.

[male voice interjects “Yep”]

Are we gonna fail?  Yes!  Who cares?  I just get back up……….

[male voice interjects “Yep”]

You fell over ………. can you imagine …. if you were a child ………….. an… an …… and when you would learn to walk the first time you fell over your parents … were ……. well that’s it ………… you’re stupid.  You’re an absolute failure.

[male laughter]

You took two steps ….. fell …… don’t ever try it again. 

[male voice interjection]

What did they do?  I’ll tell you what they did! Most of them got down on their knees … and…..(claps)… did this ……….. and we’ve been taught not go to the hands of God.

Don’t…… don’t ….. don’t …… hunger yer …..don’t look for the hands … go for his face………… what did their hands …………  reveal?  Their face!

[Moderator’s note: Is anyone actually making sense of this nonsense?]

And I believe God is saying “Come on…. use my hands.   Go for it!  Release his presence …… and this time. I tell you ….. God’s about to do something………. you know……. when the Lord gives a command …. he enables what he commands………. and what was totally impossible a moment earlier …….. now becomes possible.

Ya know I remember…… I ……… I’ve accidentally raised three people from the dead!  and it’s an accident.

[male laughter]

[Moderator’s note:  Yes, you read this correctly – listen to the audio!  Amanda Wells has claimed that she has ACCIDENTALLY raised three people from the dead!]

Total accident!………… the last one …. um …… was in Germany …. and that one was …… I .. I was a nurse ….. I was a really bad one ……….. but I was one …………..

[MODERATOR’S NOTE: HERE WE HAVE A PERSON CLAIMING TO BE A “PASTOR” AND SPEAKING IN A CHURCH MEETING AND ACTUALLY LYING TO THE CONGREGATION. WELLS WAS NEVER A NURSE!  SHE HAS REPEATEDLY MADE THIS CLAIM OVER THE YEARS AND ALSO ROLLED OUT THIS YARN TO RECEPTIVE AUDIENCES DURING HER TIME IN MINISTRY.  THERE HAS NEVER BEEN ANYONE COME FORWARD TO VERIFY ANY ASPECT OF THIS OUTRAGEOUS STORY!  READ ON!]

And …………. we were all worshipping …. and ….. I …. I sat…………. the thing as a nurse….. I could always tell who was going to die ….. I just knew!

[Moderator’s note: Yes you read that correctly – listen to the audio!]

I ….. I could tell on their face….. I ….. I realise now…….. . it was discerning of spirits. And ……….. I  …. turned around to the woman behind me ……….. and I thought ……….. ooooh …… that was a  ….. dajevu [sic] …. in other words ……… ah …… er …… something …. the future just came to me quickly.…………

[Moderator’s note:  Actually dejavu is a feeling of having already experienced the present situation so not a case of the future coming to mind but of a past experience!]

Ah …. a that’s how I felt when I was nursing.. .. I’d think …… she… she’s gonna die.  O…. and I’m like get behind me Satan …..

We’re worshipping ……… and suddenly we hear…….. (claps) thud ………… well everyone just keeps on worshipping … she’s just out in the spirit……  she never move ……….. and I’m like …… I go to the Pastor and I say …. “I think she’s dead”…….

She’s ……… “She’s not dead”

‘I think she’s dead” ………….

She goes … “O . oh ………..  the woman’s dead….  dead as a doornail …………”

[uproarious audience laughter]

Do you know …… there’s so [indecipherable]  …. there’s like …….there’s a nurse that comes over …… she goes “She’s dead” …….

Do you know …….. the people were still worshipping ……….. still worshipping!  Never even looked ………. they were so hungry for God ………..

We’re like …….. she’s dead ………. they called an ambulance ……… would’n ya  ….. doncha love that …… 45 minutes later!  An ambulance ….. turns up ………….  for a cardiac arrest………..

“Come in”  ………… They say…………. well we now have to call a doctor .. because we …… he has to ………. call it……………. but she’s dead.

The people are still worshipping ……. I know …….. I cannot believe this..

The pastor said “What d‘ ya wanna do?”  I said  I don’t wanna ……… I don’t ….. I don’t wanna preach right now…….. because if I preach everyone’s gonna be looking at the dead woman.  I said……… we’ve…. we’ve spoken life over ‘er ………(claps) ……… that’s it!  Now we’re just gonna worship life……….

Well…….. the doctor ………..came ……… that was another ……… this ………… this is now ,… the service is going on ……… for about an hour and a half ……….. he finally comes ……….he calls ‘er …………. she’s dead …. puts her on the…….. on the stretcher ………….. pushes her out …… this has happened to me so many times now …….. er twice now …………. that ……… as she’s going out ………….. she sits up ……….. and she says “Where are you taking me” in German ……. I haven’t finished worshipping!”

[audience laughter]

[Moderator’s note: “So many times – er twice!”]

“Wheel her back in!   Let’s get ‘er back in  [indecipherable as audience is laughing loudly] the  worship service.”

What was impossible …….. (claps) became possible. 

[male voice “oh…. yeah”] 

Now when I was in Germany years ago  …. I…. I ah …. th… this one …………. was an accident…………. an… an not a nice one …… but this one ……. I sorta killed a man….. accidentally….. and um …. I…I .. we were having a meeting ……

32:00     But … we were ah …… we were …… it was …. it was in a small town in East Germany of ten thousand people ….. and we were having a crusade…..  they forgot to tell us that the …..this was the International Convention of …… of …. um …… the satan….. high priests Satanists  …. the witches and warlocks …. as well …… they were having their convention …… ten thousand people …… you know ………… ya can’t really get lost.

And uh ……. and so .. we …..we’ve ’ve got …….. s ….young teenage singers with us ………… who are LOUD ……. they crank up the music …….. so we CAN’T get lost ………… anyway witches are coming in at night …… and they’re …. they’re ……….. they’re getting saved ………… on the last night …….. um …… we…. I gave the alter call ……. and there were two men right down the back ……… and they were mocking God.

I … I  don’t care…. mock me ……..I don’t care….. mock God …………. oooooooooooooh ……… Mama get’s mad ……. ya know what I mean.  An …. and anyway I …..I looked at them …. and I looked at one …… and I said “Sir.  The next time you…. you …… you….. mock God in church….. you’re gonna drop dead ….. on the door of the ………..  door of the church”.  Good way to stop a meeting.

(Makes indecipherable noise )  Like this.  I’m like “Continue singing……… we gotta get outa here! You know. ”  Ah…… o …. anyway ……………. it. it …… we’re …. we’re closing up ……… and …. people …. come in ……. and say  “Men ……. we’re gotta show you something” ………….. I said “Wha….just bring.. whatever it is …… just come in here and tell me.”  Anyway ….. guess what they drag in? 

[audience laughter… male voice interjects “a dead ….”]

A very …. dead…..  body!  Pupils fixed ……. dilated…………. pupils fixed dilated ……. no pulse anywhere ………. I tried everywhere ……. nothing …… dead as dead.  The kids are like………… “Ya killed ‘im!  Ya killed ‘im”!

I’m like “Shut up….. I KNOW!”  Um …  oh God…. what do I do?  What do I do?  I ….I’m just like “Sing!….. Sing!”    So they’re …… they’re singing …………..you know ….. Jesus lover of my soul …………. Amanda just killed a man ………..

[uproarious laughter from audience]

He’s dead!   I’m like .. oh …..  I’m in emergency tongues now.  You know what I mean……… RRRRRrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr …. like this …………. even God couldn’t understand me … God …..what am I doing …… wha ….. wha ……….. what ……….. you know ………….. what do I do …. what do I do ……………. ya kn……. he’s dead there for ages ………… I’m like….. God …………….. an…… an ……. and the Lord just said to me ……..”Speak to ‘im”!

I don’ know what to say!  What do ya say?  Merry Christmas?  I don’ know!….. [indecipherable]

[loud laughter from audience]

Do you know…… I….I just started to speak to ….. I just spoke …… I don’ know …………… what…….. life I guess ………… I mean … there was nothing… I just co-laboured with what the word said… . [male voice interjects “yeah”]  speak to ‘im ……….. that’s all he said……..Speak! 

I ….. I was too scared to even lay hands on him again.  I’m not touching …… y’ know …… I just spoke.  Suddenly (claps hands) the guy gets up …….. sits bolt upright ……….. and says ”I need Jesus!”………. Yes you do!  [interjection by male voice] We got ‘im bap … baptised in the spirit….

[male voice says  “Wow”]

I said to ‘im …..”So tell me about yourself”.  He said …. “Well…… I was a high priest Satanist”.  He said “I got outa jail today.

I said “What were you in jail for?”

He said “I slit someone’s throat.  I killed ‘im… I drank his blood and I enjoyed it”.

I said “Pastor, have you got water anywhere?”

He said “No…… only in my bath”

I said “That’ll do”.

[Moderators note:  Has the Pastor had a sex change operation in the last few minutes?  Previously Wells referred to this pastor as “she”.]

“We’re goin’ to your house”.

Filled up the bath …. baptised this guy in water ………… held him down.  I figured I ..I’d risen…. ..raised him from the dead once ….. you know ….. it was okay………. so we just held him down until he started kicking …… (indecipherable) …. Noooooo ……… he was saved………..got ‘im up.   Do you know now that guy ….. is one of the greatest evangelists in the Stanist gangs in East Germany.

Got born again………. I mean…….. I’m ME!  I’m a  mother!  I’m a grandmother!  I’m nothing …. do you know what I mean?  Who am I ?  Actually I’m a 60 year old woman who shouldn’t be going around the nations like she is .. told God . I’m still going on my Zimmer frame if I have to.

All ….. he said ………..  was… lay hands on the sick……. raise the dead ….. cast out demons…….

[male voice: “Yeah”]

[Moderator’s note:  No Amanda Wells, that is not “all”!  He said. Go therefore and make disciples of all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father and of the Son and of the Holy Spirit, teaching them to observe all that I have commanded you”. Matt 28:19-20 ESV]

We can do it…… we can do it …. because when the Lord enables you and gives you a command what was totally impossible earlier ……. becomes possible.  Why?  Because he spoke it.

[male voice interjects: “Yeah”]

And I wanna tell you, he’s speaking it now in England.  Come on…………with the ….within the command ………..

36:00   he releases a presence …… and somewhere ….. in a command .. there is always a commission …….. always …… and…..and…there I …. an what ….. our thing is ……….. we have to have the ability to embrace the assignment …………. and this is our responsibility.

And I believe for England right now ….. and for you in London ………. It’s your responsibility …… to embrace ….. the commission …… right now………….. what are you going to do with it right now?    Because this church …. I … I said “God what is this”…… and he said “It’s a ….. it’s a space station….”

I said “Lord, that’s a Hubble… not a Hub …….. just in case you ….. you  got your words mixed up …….. and he said “It’s a NASA space station……….”  He said “It….. it looks small at the moment … but the satellites…….. go throughout the whole world”……  we pick up the world……. through the NASA ……….. and I’m like ….. God is gonna do something ……….. London … You’re a HUB.

[Moderator’s note: So, Wells thinks highly of herself enough to correct the God of the Universe?]

37:00    Come one … you’re a revival Hub.  An… and we KNOW ….. that it’s the spirit of God within….. . but when I embrace the commission ….. with the responsibility of the commission ……. God said “Do it!’….. Come on …. I can do this …………. my thinking process is not ….. I hope it works ………. but I’ve been commissioned….. to do this ……… so IKNOW it works.

[male voice interjects]

Because he SAID it …………. you know …….. an ………. and.. let me just …… so try and wind this up.  I … I love this when Zechariah …….. remember Zechariah …… the … the father of …. of ……. er ……………..of um ………… John the Baptist… in …. in Luke 1: 13 -17-18 and 20…..  an…. and he’s there praying…… now …… ya gotta love this ……………. he’s there praying ………… the presence of God …….. he’s in the temple …….. an angel turns up ……………. right?

An ….. and he says ….. suddenly he’s afraid “Oh …..what’s this?”  Well, I would to ‘cause God hasn’t spoken for three hundred years.  I…. I’d be a little bit scared too then… you know …… and he says ………… the first thing he says ……”Don’t be afraid.. for y ……. for your prayer has been heard ….. and your wife Elizabeth will bear you a son ………….. and you shall call his name John”.

There’s a problem right there.  Number one, there’s an angel.  Right there.  Number two (coughs)….. he’s gonna have to call this … new move of God…. this …. this  thing the … the…. the commission…. the mission that the angel has given Zechariah ….. he’s been praying for it …… and praying for it …… just like you have ………….. (claps) you’ve praying for revival …… you’ve been praying for revival …… but now the angel turns up and says it’s not going to be called Zechariah …. it’s going to be called John…..  John! (claps).

‘at’s like calling it Kevin!

[male laughs]

39:00    Jeff! 

[male laughs]

JOHN!  Hang on!  You’re an angel…… you haven’t been here for a while…… don’t you understand the protocol?  The protocol is ….. that it gets named after ……… the father.   Not…… JOHN!…..

[audience laughs]

[Moderator’s note:  That would be “tradition” and not “protocol”]

Whose John?

[female laughter]

That is a problem right away…. and I wanna say to you ………….. there is a move of God coming but it’s not what you think it is. 

[male voice interjects: “No”]

It’s not even what you …. what you think it looks like.  This is gonna be a John ….. it’s a John move …… totally different ………… I tell you what ……. when it comes ……  I just wanna embrace it

[male voice “Hear, hear”]

Come on Lord ….. if it’s John … whatever it is …………. I want it .

[male voice: “Yeah”]

You know we have angels turn up constantly ….. and I’ve got a photo of one …………. that turned up ….  I just showed Nigel ……  before ….. in our meeting ….. great big angel turned up over our Pastor

[Moderator’s note – Pastor Katherine Ruonala]

40:04     I’m like do ‘ya want another [indecipherable] she was sitting about that far away …. I said “Do you see that?” ….. she said “Yeah”… I said “Quick, take a photo”….. ‘cause my family know that if I take a photo of you… I’ve taken a photo of him …. Yeah …… my aim isn’t…….. [indecipherable]

[audience laughter drowning out speaker]

It’s massive!  You know …. a…. angel sh ….  and th …. this is a time for angels ……. the angelic realm  ….. it’s like an angel turns up … we’re the same as him………  oh we’re gonna drop dead with fear.   I… I …. I …. this angel turned up over Pastor Katherine …. I saw it one day ….. an…. and it was massive…..an it had these great big ….. um ……. like Roman soldiers on ….. ….. er……….Roman soldiers ….. sandals on……

40:46          and I said “What is your name?” a

He said “Troy”! 

I said “I don’t like that name!” …. Well, Troy!   Couldn’t it have been Gabriel?  You know…. Something like that.  Raphael!  Troy!  Well…. He…. he just went like this ….. I thought ….. okay ….. I went home ….. I looked up Troy….. Troy means this …. a foot soldier of the Lord who wears sandals ….. who governs those who govern a city.

[male voice : “Wow”]

I’m like ……. don’t know where you re Troy but I really … I ….. I repent. 

[audience laughter and male voice interjects “Sorry….. I’m really sorry!” and laughs.]

[Moderator’s  note:  What a pity Wells doesn’t repent so easily of her lying and spinning yarns in the name of God as she does of not approving of  a supposed  angel’s name!  Troy is a Greek name, not Hebrew.  ALL of the angels names that we have are HEBREW. The last part of each of the HEBREW names we DO have end in “el,” which in Hebrew MEANS GOD.  Therefore, Troy makes no sense.  Amanda Wells may need to brush up on such important theological details before she decides to spin such a story again.]

I’m really sorry!  (laughs) But ….. I wonder how John felt.  You’re gonna have a child….. and he’s gonna be called John.  I… I wanna tell you ….. we’re IN … the time of superNATURAL manifestations… are you ready?

[Male voice: “Yeah, yeah”]

What are you gonna do?  Get a miracle …. Or see…..  Oh well I don’t believe that’s an angel .. we’ve had people say that .. well what d’ya think it WAS?  Someone said ”That’s lights”…

I said “Okay” …. and we all tried it ….. take the photo …… exactly as where she was standing…….         You can’t do it!  It’s an ANGEL!  It’s got two wings!  An …. and… you know…. we ….. we move …. I believe it’s time for visions….. trances …..

[male voice interjects: “Yeah”…” Yeah”]

Visions,…. Trances …. angelic visitations.  I … I  know … some of you are think ……… whooooooooo ….

[male laughter]

Are you supernatural or what?

[male interjection: “Yeah”]

You know … let me tell you a quick sto……… gee I better stop ……. I’ll tell you a story thirty ….. thirty years ago when I first got saved I ….  read  ….. every book ….. by every revivalist …… in the whole…. [female voice interjects] I think it’s Robin Hood ………..

[audience laughter]

[indecipherable] … an angel …..

[male voice …. laughter “I thought it was the trumpet of the Lord…..” (indecipherable)]

I wasn’t going ……. I was [indecipherable]

[uproarious laughter by congregation]

[Male voice: “I thought the Lord was having a laugh at you”… (indecipherable)….”Troy” ….. laughter]

That’s it!  An… an….. and some of you ….. may have heard this …. ‘cause you …. you’ve …. were in [indecipherable]…………

But thirty years ago ….. I was SO hungry for God ………. I..I just read every revival book there was …. and …. um …. every …. book on the revivals …. and I said “God, I want that.  I wanna do it.  I wanna…. whatever they did, I wanna do it.”  Then I saw that there were fifteen times in the Bible where there ….. where it talks about translation….. and I saw how ….. some of the old men of God translated… Phillip translated ….. I want that…… I … I …. I want this ………… and I prayed ….. I … it was like “God you said it… I want it ………… and I was like that back then ……….

One day…. we had prayer meetings at 6.00 am every morning what  ….. the Pastor was thinking …. I don’ know …. he had a moment ….. 6.00 am to 7.00 am ….. prayer meetings used to sound like this …….. (makes snoring noise) ..

[audience laughter]

Everyone was sound asleep ……… and this one morning…….  we ….. we were all just laying in our prone positions……… to God ……….. praying ……. and …… suddenly I’m not there ……. I’ve gone ….. and I’m in a car in a ………. In like a pick-up truck ….. and ….. um …… a ute ……. and there’s a cliff beside me and there’s a man ….. it’s a left hand drive…….. and a man was seated behind ….. uh near me……………

44:00     and there was a gun ……….. right next to ‘im …………. I picked up the gun ………. and I got out of the car …….  and I threw it over the cliff …… and I got back in the car ………… and I led him to the Lord ……. and he was about to commit suicide…… next minute ……. I’m walking .. oh no ….. before I left I said … “Where am I?………… He said “Nova Scotia

[woman interjects: ‘Mm..mm”]

I walked back into church………. an….. that’s where I was …… the next  ……… I was walking back …… they said “Where have ……we thought you’d gone home.”

I said “No ……….”  I said “er where’s Nova Scotia? “  I didn’t even know where it was.  Anyway I told my Pastor and he told me ….I…I’d gone fruit loopy ….. I was off with the pixies ……. and I needed to come back to earth …….. I did sadly  ….. and you know I lost a lot of the supernatural in that.

Do you know ….. last year I put a word on the Elijah List……. first word ……. and … the next day it was Jen Baker actually who wrote to me and said……..  “You’ve got a word on the Elijah List” ….great.  I had 400 emails  ……  and I went through them all ……….. and suddenly there was one email that said ………. Nova Scotia ………… I’m like …. Oooohhh……… I’m gonna read it …………. I opened it …. and it said ……… “Hi, I’m Don Wells….”……. same name as me……… he said “You probably don’t remember me…….. thirty years ago you were in my car …….. stopped me from committing suicide ……

[exclamation from male voice in audience]

And you led me to the Lord.  I really wanna connect”.  I’m like …….. OH MY JESUS!………

[continual male injection with indecipherable noises]

I’m like ….. this is real ……

[male voice: “Yeah ….. absolutely” ]

[Moderator’s note:  On 23rd July 2015 on Pirate Christian Radio Pastor Chris Rosebrough actually reviewed a sermon in which Wells told this same story. Here is the link to the program.

http://www.piratechristian.com/fightingforthefaith/2015/7/god-sized-dreams?rq=Amanda%20Wells

On this occasion, she was teaching at Faithlife Church in Australia.  Wells makes a living out of going to churches all over the world and repeating these same fanciful stories.  However, as with all pathological lies it becomes difficult for her to remember the details and to repeat the story the same way.

At 15:45 on this program you will hear Chris Rosebrough begin his review of this story as told by Wells.  Listen to the story as told on the audio of this transcription and then listen again to Chris Rosebrough’s program to hear how the details of the story have changed.  In one story she claims she has thrown the gun away and then brought the guy to the Lord and in another version she reverses the order.  Quite a detail to confuse.

As the story continues in this audio Wells claims she had 400 emails after her “word” appeared on the Elijah List but in Faithlife church she claims that the number was about 900 emails!!!!!  Quite a discrepancy. The segment ends at 26:38.]

The baby will be called John.  How hungry are you?  I’m want more of it.

[male voice interjects: “Yeah”]

I don’t know about you .. but I want this!

[male voice: “Yeah”]

I WANT THIS……… the baby will be called John ………. And then it goes on  …… and  Zechariah said to this …..the angel “Well, how shall I know this?”  Are you mental?  There’s an angel standing in front  of you with a .….with a message … and the angel answered him and said “You’ll be sli… silent . and unable to speak ……… until the day ….. these ….. things take place”.

An….. and Zechariah……..riahs’…. his response …. revealed something ….. during the time period between the original asking  …… and the moment of getting the long …… ah the answer….. he was no longer hoping ….. or expecting anything.

England’s been in that period.  You speak to people ….. you speak to the church ………. Oh……. We’re not going to get anything …… you know …… there’s nothing happening ………. and I wanna tell you ….. the angel of the Lord has come to England ……….. and it’s like he’s pronounced over this nation ….. the move of God………..

[male voice interjects: “Yep”]

And it’s not what you think……….. Zechariah’s words impacted the angel ………. and the angel impacted the situation …………  Words can affect our manifestations……. and making his ….. him mute…. was not a judgement on Zechariah.. but actually ….. it’s was Gods’ way of  ….. protecting …. him from talking his way out of the ….  manifestation ……… and ………….. when the baby was born… Zechariah’s ….wrote … on …on …. wrote down …. “His name is John”.  Totally different.  He wrote it.  And I believe that God is saying you’re writing in history today …….. you’re writing the next move of God in history…………. John is not the name that you would give……  John is a name that was….. w..w….who…. who was called John  …… back….. back  then?  It was not a known name.  And God is saying to you today that ……… there is a name ……. there is something happening in this nation.  Will you partner with him?  Will you say “come on, God”……. I wannna do it …. I …I wanna go there………… I just wanna go … wherever you want me ….. I …I’m there… I’m co-labouring with you Lord… an…an…it’s different to what you expect …. but are you hungry enough…. that it ….. that you’ll just step into that realm ……… where it’s not like you …. you kn … that’s all it is ………… is stepping into that glory realm……. and I’ve learnt to do that …. I just take a step ………. sometimes I’ll take a s.. physical … step …. and just go there ………. because I want an encounter with God … an….. and God is …. really I believe over England.  Come on!  The angel of the Lord .. the angels of the Lord are over this nation right now.  And they’re saying (claps hands) … “This is revival… you are in the midst of a move…..”  and your words and the way you respond to it… is going to affect the manifestation in the next coming years.

So how are you going to respond?  Are you going in or are you going out?  Are you saying “Yes….. I’m in …. I’m in this God for the long …..  for the long haul.  I’m in this move of God.  You know…. Paul said “though I speak with tongues of men and angels…..”…… and I think the church has stopped praying in tongues …… and when we pray in tongues ………….. (claps hands)…. Come on! …. It’s not a “shuck-a-ma-huck-hi!”

[Moderator’s note: Blasphemous referral to gift of tongues]

48:55     When I get up in the morning it’s a [Here Wells again launches into an exhibition which she purports to be Biblical  tongues] …… I’m speaking the language of angels ….. I’m connecting with the angels …… and the angels there …… affect the manifestation ….. of what’s going to happen on the earth.  We are in the middle of a move.

Are…. you ….. ready?   

[audience interjections] 

Phhhhhh…….

[male voice: “Yeeesss”]

Are you ready?  Are you ready?   Are you ready?  Because…I … I just sense ….come on!….God wants to do things . I don’t know about you but I…I … was told translation was wrong . I’m ready again ……… you know God says  ….. as he is so am I!  Jesus walked through walls!  … I’m practising!  I might get my nose busted ….. but I’m practis ….. I want to do as he is………….

[Moderator’s note:  Wells has claimed over the years to practice walking on water in her bathtub and now we her she is practising walking through walls.  Is there anyone who is still prepared to claim that this woman does not need professional help?]

I want what he wants!

[male voice interjects: “Yeah”]

[Moderator’s note:  What he wants is clear if you would read your Bible.  Repent! And turn away from this delusional behaviour!]

And I just want to say you tonight … be hungry …………

[male interjects: “yeah”]

Don’t be religious!  Don’t let our words affect the manifestation in this nation any longer.  Now….. I’m tired of hearing this nation’s hard . I had a Muslim woman asking me about Jesus…………….

[Moderator’s note:  No she didn’t.  In fact, Wells allegedly asked her a question and when she responded that she was fasting, Wells told her that she you fasts too and when asked why, Wells supposedly said “because of Jesus”.  That is NOT someone asking about Jesus.]

50:00    It’s easy!  Get ready!  We had a man …I …I …. in one meeting we had ….. you know …. there ….. there’s a woman called Izzy [Moderator’s note: Izzy De Gersigny, Australian pastrix] ….. and when she song leads ….. man …..  God comes!  She’s …. she’s over fifty…… a dancer …. and she’ll do cart wheels when she’s song leading.  But God comes ……… somewhere I was gone ……. I saw three angels coming into our church……….

One …..  handed….. the church … .. the Middle East…..  just handed it …. to pastor Katherine ……..Izzy…. Izzy starts playing on the …. on her thing that she’s going  ………. “I eeee…. ay yya ya ………” singing some Arabic song ……. I’m in a trance ….. I’m there ……. no one    uh everyone’s sitting down ….. Izzy and I are off with the fairies …… I was off with God ………… I see this …. this move ………… I see this angel coming in …………  there were three … there was [sic]  two others ….. and all of a sudden ….. you know … I open my eyes …… and everyone’s sitting down …………. and ………………. I…I … pastor Katherine looks and says “ What did you just see?”  I told ‘er.  It wasn’t long after that ………. we had a guy come in ………. [indecipherable name] ….. he was a Muslim …………. He was an Iranian…… he came in … got ma ….radically saved …. We had such a move of God of… of ….  of so many of the refugees coming into our church.  Izzy said, “As I ….”….uh she said ….. she didn’t know what I’d seen but she said an angel walked up to her then…. it was like TO me …… walked up to her and started singing a song in Arabic ………… actually  (same indecipherable name) ……. then …….. he wasn’t there then ….. but someone was there who understood Arabic and knew what …. what ..sh..was being sung…………. God is so great.

[Moderator’s note: Notice how Wells changed her story part way through…. First about to claim that it was the Iranian man who was there and then thinking better of it and changing her mind] 

God is doing something…….. (sings) are you ready?  Are you hungry?……. I’m hungry…………

[male voice interjects: “Yep”]

You guys.. all we have to do is this …………. and just release his presence ………..?

[male voice interjects: “Yeah”]

And release his presence ………….. Father we are SO hungry ………………

[male voice interjects: “Oh yeah”]

Father we are not going to let our words affect aFather God manifestation in this nation…. where …..where death is being spoken anymore.  Father ….. we just thank you ………. that Jesus ….. you wa…you wa… you want a John…… whatever that is ….. whatever revival looks like.  It’s the only word we’ve got……….. until it appears Father………..  we.. it’s the only word we’ve got.  And Father….. . that’s the word we can use……..

[Moderator’s note:  Have you heard of the Bible Wells…. That’s the Word!]

Father …. we declare it …………. In this nation toni … I declare (claps hands) it in London .. I declare revival tonight

[audience now joins in …………….. some speaking in nonsensical language – against Biblical instructions]

I declare such a manifestation….. of a revival of God ……. (claps hands)…. Let the baby come!

[Moderator’s note: The baby???]

Let the baby come Lord! (claps hands). 

[male interjects: “Yes Jesus” and then continues to interject with agreement throughout the next few minutes.  Wells is now shouting]

Father, I thank you …………. I thank you, Lord… I declare…. Father ………….. the commission …… I declare Father God…. each one of these will raise the dead!  They will lay hands on the sick and see them recover….. and Father (now continually clapping hands) demons are just gonna be cast out of systems …. out of people…  I thank you Father 

[Moderator’s note:  Have you heard of the Bible Wells?]

53:08     Father tonight ……. we just declare into that realm …………. We declare in the realm of London ………. Father I thank you ………… for your blood that protects ………. But we …. We now declare into this area ….  and Father we just say … that in this area ….. in London ….. where there has not been a move of God for a while Father God ……. there’s got to be such a move of God that people on the Tube  ……. are just going to get healed…… Father, something is going to break out ……….. something is breaking out Father … I …. I just thank you for breaking out ……. breaking out ……. where there are dead systems ……… where there are dead things …….. Father God ………… it’s’ like (indecipherable)….. the church …. is going to go in an …. and just lay hands on the dead …. and see them recover.

[constant interjections by male voice throughout]

He didn’t say pray a thousand prayers….  he just said raise them up … I don’t know how ….. but we just do it …….

Father…. I just thank you right now ………… I just declare ………. even over every single person here who’s hungry…. I declare Father God ……  tonight ………… the supernatural move of God ……….. I declare the supernatural tonight …… outrageous moves …… outrageous….. outrageous …… outrageous ……. Father God.

Will there be craziness?  Yes!  Father ….like Bill Johnsons says …. “If there’s no poop in the storm, there’s no cow’s (indecipherable)”  ….. ah we just clean it …… it’s okay …….we’re adults …. we’re not children ……. we  look and say “oh we don’t want to clean it” ….. we’re adults ….. Father I just thank you for an outrageous move  ….. I declare tonight …….

[woman’s voice interjects: “outrageous…. That’s the word ……”]

Outrageous……..

[womans’ voice: “Are we outrageous God…………….]

And I believe that is the word …… outrageous …… outrageous …… outrageous.   

[male voice: “Yes Jesus”]

Ya… ya know Father ….. it’s like …. The unsaved have their rage meetings……… their rage …. they have these rave and rage things ………… in Australia ……….. and so with drugs and alcohol …. but Father God……. (sings)  Ahaaaaa ……… you are our ……….( screeches indecipherable)….. (sings)….ahhhh ….. than you ……..  Father I just thank you tonight ……….. for an encounter……… with you ……….

[male prays …………..]

56:03   Let’s be intentional…… in our asking ………… I told him I want it…………. I want it all ………….sometimes  English people are too nice …………. let’s be nice ….. let’s not …. let’s not be above anybody else ……… Oh …… ah ….. if you don’t want yours I’ll take yours as well …………..(indecipherable)…..

[audience laughter]

I’ll be …th… ka….. I’ll be the kangaroo. I’ll (indecipherable)  … I’ll take it all ….. God if they don’t want it.  I’ll have it…… but Lord. it …. it’s like their …. their pain ………….. …..oh Jesus …………Father we thank you tonight…….. (exhales loudly) PHHHHHHHHHHHhhhhhhhh …………………… Father God….

56:48     Do…..does someone know Helen?  Does anyone here know a Helen?  Wh…who knows Helen?

[Moderator’s note:  Amanda Wells now, which she has done so many times before, engages in cold reading which the Bible strictly condemns ….. fortune telling, mystical arts and practices which are abhorrent to God are sins of the most grievous kind. That the Pastor has permitted this in his church and congregation for which he is responsible, is deplorable.] 

Er…. You know Helen!  And before I give Helen… does someone know Fiona?  Does someone …. anyone ….. you know Fiona!  Great!  Father, thank you Lord…. I just ….. I’d better give Helen ….. before I forget Helen … otherwise I will …… Father, I just thank you for Helen……….. You know … you need to go back.  Is she in  ….in  …. in America?   Yeah …………ah… ah … you need to go back and call her …… and tell her that the destiny and the promise that God gave ‘er…………. and even th….the ones that she forgot .… because she prayed a long time ago ………. and she forgot ……. is she saved?

Nooo!  Ah…… ‘cause there’s a destiny on her life a… and there’s …. but there’s things that she’s actually asked…it’s like she’s asked God for …….. but she’s not saved …….. you know what I mean………… you know wh……oh God ….. do this …. and ya don’t even know God.  And she’s… God‘s saying……. I know her…… I love her ………. I have my hand on her…………. an… and she’s gonna come ou….….. and she’s got such a destiny…. an …. and i…. it’s time to come out … it’s time to come out ….. you’ve got the word of God for ‘er ……. and as she co ….. I tell you she’s gonna come out …… of what she’s in … she’s gonna come out of that …………. and this is her time …… this is her season ………… this is her day ……….and God’s gonna do something that is SO powerful …. an… .y could….. y’ you need to go…an…. a ……lay hands on her …. and if ya can’t get to  ‘er…. lay hands on an envelope … lay hands on a letter …. and send it to her….. because God is saying “This is her moment ……….. in …. In history.”

[Moderator’s note:  Quick recovery needed here when she finds out this “Helen” is not saved.  What a good thing that Wells had been purposefully so vague when she mentioned “the promise that God gave her”. ]

An….. tick tock …. tick tock …. time is…. time is ….. time is …….. it’s her moment ….. an ….. and Fiona……..  Is  Fiona born again? 

[male voice: “No”]

She [sic]not born again either .. man ……….. I tell you these are your fish! ….. these are the fish!!!  God’s saying come on!  Start to pray………. start to pray…… start to pray for Fiona….. because as you to start to pray God’s opening a door …….. and there’s a door that’s opening .. it…. it’s a door she closed ……… a long time ago………… an… and it was in (indecipherable)… her childhood …. she closed the door ……… and it was almost like the door of her heart got closed ……….. in that area………… a…. and the Lord has been prying open this door ….a …. and suddenly there is a softening coming ….. to ‘er heart …………. an…… and she’s yours.  God’s saying “Go and lay hands on ‘er…… because  if you…. if your with ‘her……if your near ‘her……just lay your hand on ‘her ….. just put your hand on ‘er shoulder ………… release him!   And something’s gonna break out in him …… in her ……. and there is a …….. there is something there that is a softening of her heart…… an ……. and there is a ……… she’s going to seek for forgiveness … it’s like she needs to forgive someone ………… an … and it …. It’s  behind a locked door ……. and as she forgives …………. something’s gonna break out over her…… totally break out.  You know …….. and God has his hand on you ………….. you are a leader among leaders ……. and God has his hand upon you………….an there is leadership thing ….. as soon as you walked in  it was like …………… a king’s just walked into the room.  A king’s walked into the room.  An ……. and something just walked into the room.  You carry kingship………..

60:00     You carry something ………… you carry leadership ……. you carry the call of God ………… you carry the hunger of God……….. when you walked in …. It was like WOW! …… I could feel like I’m go… just pulling ……….. and God’s saying “I’m gonna do it “ ………… you asked for something tonight….. you said “I want that” … and God’s saying “I’m gonna do it through you, for you and in you. Get ready son….. because there is a leadership thing ………… you’re gonna teach others …….. how to …. to WALK in this …….. you’re gonna teach others how to walk in the….. in the miraculous ….. in the impossible…… and the impossible is going to become the possible to you.  Y…. you live in the impossible ………. It’s your home … it’s your place ………….. an.. and it’s like ………… where do I live……… I live in Impossible Street.  An…. and because that impossible is going to become possible.  Get ready!  Ha………. in Jesus name………….

Does somebody have a birthday in March?  A ….  th..s….. it’s you!  Only one?  Just one birthday ….. two birthdays in March………… March…….. January, February, March….. third month ………. it’s ……… sorry I had to count whether it was three or four …… I failed maths ……. an ……… and number three ……. I love it …..number three  ……. in ….. in ………..there is something that’s happening ….. your birthday is ……. January, February, March ….. yeah …… why do I keep thinking four ….. there is …. because God’s saying ……. there’s something else coming there.  In ..er… the third month ….. number three……….. in..in Hebrew letters……  is … is the letter Gimmel  …. and Gimmel is like a camel… it’s a camel … and a camel brings resource ………… a camel always brought …… um …… it was ………. a… y … yes it was an animal of burden …. but what it was burdened with was resource and provision………. and always came in a caravan carrying ….. that provision…………. and God is saying there is provision coming for both of you …………. the camel’s are coming …………and …. there’s something about a camel …… you cannot hear a camel come ……….. a camel is so quiet that you cannot hear it …… you don’t even know a camel is behind you until it opens its mouth ….. and you smell its breath.  And that’s what it’s going to be like ……… you’re just gonna discern that the camels are here…… not by what you would normally discern………. but you’ll discern a different way….. it’s like you’ll smell their breath….. you’ll…. you’ll know they’re their ….. and they’re coming with the provision that you need.

[Moderator’s note:  So, from the number three, Wells has gone to the third Hebrew LETTER, Gimmel, and because that sounds like “camel” purports that therefore this means provision is coming? This is directly lifted from the teachings of one of Wells’ favoured people from whom she has plagiarised over the years, Lance Wallnau, another false prophet who has been peddling such nonsense over time.] 

Have you got a house? I…I… are you believing God for a house? 

[male voice: “No”]

Well it’s time you did …. Because God’s saying ……. wh… what are you believing for?  Wh …. Where are you living?  With Mum and Dad? 

[male voice: “Nah”]

Oh thank God ….. thank you Jesus………. Um …. Where?

[male responds: “With my Pastors”]

[Moderator’s note:  Strange that God didn’t know this already!]

Okay ……… y… y need to believe for a house ………. And what sort of house do you want? Because the camels are coming.  Don’t let them pass you by …………. without provision and go to someone else …… you need to believe bigger … greater……….. an….and because something is about to happen when you get the house ……… (sings oooooohhhhhhh) ……… something’s about to break out.  God’s about to do something.  An…… and then I kept seeing four ….. number three….. y…. the birthday is three ….. number three… Gimmel….. but number four comes after three and four is the letter “Dalet”………..and four is the number of…. of ….Dalet  is an open door …… an it’s an open door into Heaven …. an …. and what it means is that Heaven’s open ……. but you better get ready because what’s in Heaven, you need to download on earth .. gods going to start to show what’s in Heaven ….. and when you start to see what’s in Heaven…… you’ll wanna bring it on earth…. an…. and God is gonna show you ….. and give you ……… INCREDIBLE supernatural powers…… if…. you … will …… allow …… it!

The provision’s coming …….. an… don’t be scared……….. there’s that …. that ……..woooohhhh…. and also … what if I go flakey ………….oh… i…. it’s God!  Ask for God .. if you ask for a stone…… you know … wh…… why do we get………… ooooooooooooooooh .. I might go weird…. you’re not gonna go weird ……. you’re not weird now …………  you’d be weird now if you were gonna go weird……….

[audience laughter]

Just start…. to believe … because God’s saying “There is an open door”…………

Holy Spirit…… Father God ……….. we just thank you …………..

I dunno … ..I just…. I just sense that ……….. there is a hunger of ………….of… of something new here………..

Who’s got the problem on this side of the face .. could be in here .. might be round …. It might be headache………. round …. round here ………… someone have … that somewhere ?  On this side ….. it might be a headache……….. I think that’s happening ……. In the …… side of their face ….. now and then ………… no one?  Okay …….. that is you ……….. okay ……I ….. I’m gonna lay hands on you …. That is you?

[woman’s voice; “Yeah”]

Okay …….. come on down ….. let’s lay hands on you ……….. let’s….. let’s get rid of those things…….

[male voice “I tell you what. Let’s shift this  (indecipherable…”]

Let’s do that ……..’’cause I just feel like God wants to do something……….. father God .. come on!….. just move ……………………

Someone’s got trouble in their right leg …………………

END OF TAPE

The Pastor of this church, Nigel Langford, should immediately apologise to his congregation, resign from his position, return to GOD’S WORD and repent and never again step into a position of leadership. A shepherd who does not recognise a wolf is not fit to be a shepherd at all!


 

If, after reading this transcription you continue to  choose to sit in a church which has invited this wolf and others similar into your midst, rather than to immediately seek a church which preaches ONLY the world of God and does not exist to promote the celebrity of its leaders, then you must prayerfully examine yourself.

Church is NOT meant to be a venue in which you can go to be entertained, nor is it a social club where you go because you friends attend.  Church is the place where you go to worship God and to hear his voice and to learn about HIM and not about the speaker who has you in fits laughing and shows you a good time.

It  can be difficult to extract once ensnared by the tentacles of these fakes and self-appointed leaders but  everything depends on it…. even perhaps your eternal salvation. When one sits under false teaching  long enough delusion takes over and it becomes less possible to discern the truth from the lies.  God is capable of hardening our hearts if we are constantly turning away from his Word and listening to other Gospels.

John 12:40 ESV
“He has blinded their eyes and hardened their hearts, so that they cannot see with their eyes, and understand with their hearts, and turn, and I would heal them.”

Hebrews 3:7-11 ESV
Therefore, as the Holy Spirit says, ‘Today, if you hear his voice, do not harden your hearts as in the rebellion, on the day of testing in the wilderness,where your fathers put me to the test and saw my works for forty years. Therefore I was provoked with that generation, and said, ‘They always go astray in their heart; they have not known my ways.’ As I swore in my wrath, ‘They shall not enter my rest.’”

Exodus 4:21 ESV
The LORD said to Moses, “When you go back to Egypt see that you perform before Pharaoh all the wonders which I have put in your power; but I will harden his heart so that he will not let the people go.

Exodus 10:1 ESV
Then the LORD said to Moses, “Go to Pharaoh, for I have hardened his heart and the heart of his servants, that I may perform these signs of Mine among them,

Joshua 11:20 ESV
For it was of the LORD to harden their hearts, to meet Israel in battle in order that he might utterly destroy them, that they might receive no mercy, but that he might destroy them, just as the LORD had commanded Moses.

1 Timothy 4:1 ESV

Now the Spirit expressly says that in later times some will depart from the faith by devoting themselves to deceitful spirits and teachings of demons,

Deuteronomy 18:10-12 ESV 

There shall not be found among you anyone who burns his son or his daughter as an offering, anyone who practices divination or tells fortunes or interprets omens, or a sorcerer or a charmer or a medium or a necromancer or one who inquires of the dead, for whoever does these things is an abomination to the Lord. And because of these abominations the Lord your God is driving them out before you.

Leviticus 20:6 ESV 

“If a person turns to mediums and necromancers, whoring after them, I will set my face against that person and will cut him off from among his people.

2 Corinthians 11:14 ESV 

And no wonder, for even Satan disguises himself as an angel of light.

Galatians 5:19-21 ESV

Now the works of the flesh are evident: sexual immorality, impurity, sensuality, idolatry, sorcery, enmity, strife, jealousy, fits of anger, rivalries, dissensions, divisions, envy, drunkenness, orgies, and things like these. I warn you, as I warned you before, that those who do such things will not inherit the kingdom of God.

Matthew 7:15 ESV

“Beware of false prophets, who come to you in sheep’s clothing but inwardly are ravenous wolves.

Isaiah 2:6 ESV

For you have rejected your people, the house of Jacob, because they are full of things from the east and of fortune-tellers like the Philistines, and they strike hands with the children of foreigners.

2 Chronicles 33:6 ESV

And he burned his sons as an offering in the Valley of the Son of Hinnom, and used fortune-telling and omens and sorcery, and dealt with mediums and with necromancers. He did much evil in the sight of the Lord, provoking him to anger.

1 Samuel 15:23 ESV

For rebellion is as the sin of divination, and presumption is as iniquity and idolatry. Because you have rejected the word of the Lord, he has also rejected you from being king.”

Hebrews 1:1-2 ESV 

Long ago, at many times and in many ways, God spoke to our fathers by the prophets, but in these last days he has spoken to us by his Son, whom he appointed the heir of all things, through whom also he created the world.

Enabler #7

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Bev Murrill is an enabler of Amanda Wells.

According to their website;

“CHRISTIAN GROWTH INTERNATIONAL (CGi) was founded by Rick and Bev Murrill when they came to England from Australia in 1996 to lead the church that became known as Christian Growth Centre in Chelmsford. Out of this church a network has developed as churches have been planted out of Chelmsford and other churches have sought relationship with CGi. 

As a network of churches, CGi aims to provide support and covering for churches and groups who have come together in relationship with a common DNA to build church and to extend the kingdom. There are currently CGi churches (known as Christian Growth Centres).”

The Murrills also established M:POWER Ministry Training College and it contains the following statement in it’s prospectus:

“CHARACTER
Life has a way of challenging all of our well thought
out principles and ideals. Unless we can live the life,
all our talk is meaningless. It’s vital that our
character is larger than our gifting.”

Clearly Murrill does not apply this ethos to the Christian Growth International of network of churches. These are just empty words when churches are ushering wolves into their congregations and feeding them doctrines of demons. The character of some is clearly NOT larger than their gifting!

This is from Bev Murrill’s own website. We will let her speak for herself.

“The difference between a Church that shows the world who God is, and one that doesn’t, generally boils down to its leaders, and this is where my second passion comes in. I believe that the development of godly, empowering, courageous, visionary leaders is crucial if the Church is to fulfil its mandate to facilitate the Kingdom of God here on earth as it is in heaven.

I have a Masters Degree in Global Leadership from Fuller Theological Seminary and this, combined with my 30+ years of experience as a church leader in Australia and UK, means that I understand leadership in the Church from a practical and a theological perspective.

An Aussie, I have spent almost 20 years in the UK where, together with my husband Rick, I founded Christian Growth International, a vibrant and growing network of churches, missions and projects. I have provided leadership and mentoring to hundreds of leaders in UK, USA, Uganda, Australia, France, Indonesia and Central Asian nations, through preaching and teaching at leadership conferences and in churches.”

Bev Murrill certainly has indeed assisted in developing some “interesting” leaders over the years. One of those most notable being Amanda Wells! One would have thought “30 years of church leadership” might have equipped Murrill to be able to spot a fake more easily than she obviously is able to.

Evidence suggests that Murrill and Wells have enjoyed a close friendship for many years and the Christian Growth International Organisation which Murrill founded was the springboard for Wells to infiltrate a great many churches in the United Kingdom.  Perhaps Murrill missed her true calling and might have been better equipped to act as an agent and promote stand up comedians into the local clubs and pubs of Great Britain.  We are about to take a closer look at this Christian Growth International and some of the rubbish that is being promoted in their churches. Discerning Christians will very quickly be able to judge for themselves just what damage this woman has inflicted on vulnerable people.

Murrill has received the following accolades from Amanda Wells over time.

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Bev Murrill: “OH gosh…!!! We’re PEER mentors… you and me! I receive so much from you and am grateful you’re in my life!”

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Christian Growth International is responsible for so much damage done to vulnerable people and it is our hope that those attending these churches will look closely at what has been said to them  in the name of God. This is yet another network cleverly set up in order to give each of the “Pastors” access to each other’s churches on a self-promoting circuit. That anyone could have introduced Wells and others of her ilk into their churches without checking her credentials and bona fides is a disgrace. Or did they know they would bring someone who has been guilty of pathological lying and falsifying her life story into to preach to their vulnerable sheep and simply didn’t care? Murrill has some serious questions to answer!

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http://www.christiangrowthinternational.org/Groups/73031/Christian_Growth_International/Churches/Churches.aspx

The Blind Leading The Blind

He answered, ‘Every plant that my heavenly Father has not planted will be rooted up. Let them alone; they are blind guides. And if the blind lead the blind, both will fall into a pit.’” (Matthew 15:13-14)

A reader recently submitted this copy/paste of one of Amanda Wells’ facebook posts:

Amanda Wells

December 31, 2012 near Brisbane, Queensland

“I am frightened and also amazed at how many ‘prophetic types’ go round and prophesy ( mainly to women) and say they are called to be ‘free lance prophets’ who will go into churches and tell the pastors whats wrong!! What is wrong is that is unbiblical, unscriptural, lacking order and out of line and then you have these women a mess and trying to get them back on track is mammoth…….. no one is called to free lance……. we are called to be planted and under authority, accountable and in line with His Divine Order”

The Gardner’s questions:
Prophetic type?
Prophecy to women?
Unbiblical?
Unscriptural?
Lacking order?
Out of line?
Getting women into a mess?
Under authority?
Accountability?
Need I say more?

Red “angel” feather?

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Yes, that is indeed an angel’s feather… from a FALLEN angel. 

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Original source.

Of course, this is coming from the woman who says,

“…If I’m in the presence of God and I’m even, you know, um, worshiping, I’m in Church, whatever, what happens if I see something that might be from the devil? What if I think something is from God and it’s really from the devil?…” (Amanda Wells.) 

THE GREATEST SWINDLE OF ALL

Amanda Wells has practically built a ministry around her story of dying on the operating table in the 1990’s, going to Heaven and having a conversation with God!

From:  https://answersingenesis.org/reviews/books/are-visits-to-heaven-for-real/

There is simply no reason to believe anyone who claims to have gone to heaven and returned. John 3:13 says, “No one has ascended into heaven except he who descended from heaven, the Son of Man.” And John 1:18 says, “No one has seen God at any time.”

Four biblical authors had visions of heaven—not near-death experiences. Isaiah and Ezekiel (Old Testament prophets) and Paul and John (New Testament apostles) all had such visions. Two other biblical figures—Micaiah and Stephen—got glimpses of heaven, but what they saw is merely mentioned, not described (2 Chronicles 18:18Acts 7:55).

Only three of these men later wrote about what they saw—and the details they gave were comparatively sparse (Isaiah 6:1–4Ezekiel 1, 10Revelation 4–6). All of them focused properly on God’s glory. They also mentioned their own fear and shame in the presence of such glory. They had nothing to say about the mundane features that are so prominent in modern tales about heaven (things like picnics, games, juvenile attractions, familiar faces, odd conversations, and so on). Paul gave no actual description of heaven but simply said what he saw would be unlawful to utter. In short, the biblical descriptions of heaven could hardly be any more different from today’s fanciful stories about heaven.

Far too much of the present interest in heaven, angels, and the afterlife stems from carnal curiosity. Those who demand to know more than Scripture tells us about heaven are sinning: “The secret things belong to the Lord our God, but those things which are revealed belong to us and to our children forever” (Deuteronomy 29:29

But no matter how much they might obsess over what heaven is like, people who fill their heads with a lot of fantastic or delusional ideas from others’ near-death experiences have not truly set their minds on things above. If the inerrant biblical truth God has given us is the only reliable knowledge about heaven we have access to (and it is), then that is what should grip our hearts and minds, not the dreams and speculations of human minds.”



Wells describes in considerable detail her regular visits to Heaven in her talks to gullible church congregations. What an extraordinary thing it is that in all the encounters Wells claims to have had with God, including this particular instance of her alleged visit while on the operating table
 in the 1990’s, God never seems to mention to her anything regarding her sins – but focuses instead on her using her “gifts”. Given the prolific amount of lies and plagiarism of which this woman has now been shown to be guilty, it is somewhat astounding that the God we know from the Bible would have been more interested in her ability to plagiarise for so long without being caught than he would have been in the fact that she was stealing other’s people’s material and profiting from it.

The problem is that the claims she has made concerning this alleged 1990’s event are in many respects totally fraudulent and have been added to over the years. The story has now reached such grandiose proportions as to defy even any rational person who has been previously been sucked into Wells’ abyss of delusion, to not begin to ask questions.

Hearing this story related on several different videos, we first became alerted to the fact these events merited further investigation because the description of the surgery appeared to change over the years. “Transplant surgery” became “Major Transplant surgery” and eventually morphed into “Double Major Transplant surgery” but with all the seemingly irrelevant detail attached to the claims, never once did Wells refer to exactly what “organs” had been transplanted.  And so, we began to look closer at this incredible story. (N.B. In the video link below you can watch Wells indicate with her hand the lower half of her torso where she alleges she had these 600 stiches.)

As a result, we now have questions for Wells to answer over this outrageous tale and expect that any person who has been so gullible as to have been taken in by this fantasy over the years and yet still considers to be reasonably sane, will be looking forward to receiving those answers to these questions themselves.

Amanda Wells, why are you claiming that you had MAJOR TRANSPLANT SURGERY when our research has uncovered the fact that there was NO donor, or in fact ANY other individual, involved in the surgery as the description “transplant surgery” infers?

From the Medical Dictionary:  Transplant surgery is the surgical removal of an organ(s), tissue, or blood products from a donor and surgically placing or infusing them into a recipient.

And from Wikipedia:

Organ transplantation – Wikipedia

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Organ_transplantation

Organ transplantation is a medical procedure in which an organ is removed from one body and placed in the body of a recipient, to replace a damaged or missing organ.

Was there are recipient or donor involved in your surgery Amanda Wells? Information from someone who claims to have attended church with Wells during those years refutes this vastly misleading description of her surgery.

Wells claims to have had a “double transplant”.  Please name the TWO organs you claim were involved in this surgery, Amanda Wells.  How does Wells define a “double   transplant” in her own vivid imagination?  Is the fact that the surgeon used both his hands enough for her to make such a claim?  Given most of her outlandish stories, it seems that this is entirely possible.   Since Wells has traded off this story for so many years and given that the narrative has changed so much over time, perhaps Amanda Wells might now publish medical proof to back her claims concerned with this story.

Did you really die on the operating table Amanda Wells?  You will not have any problem publishing your medical records if this is the case.  Amanda Wells claims that she “bled out” on the operating table.  She claims that the doctor who operated on her told her that she had  “bled out” on the table due to the  mistakes made by the eminent Professor who operated on her.

bleed out (third-person singular simple present bleeds outpresent participle bleeding outsimple past and past participle bled out)

To DIE due to excess bloodloss; to BLEED TO DEATH.

Has Amanda Wells been watching too much CSI?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vlO7LzHmjtw

Hear this absurd story beginning at 1:03:05

Amanda Wells claims that the Professor who operated on her made a few critical and life-threatening  mistakes during the operation! Is this yet another case of Wells maligning someone who is unable to defend himself?  Did any medical staff report this problem?

Amanda Wells claimed in a talk to a Women Conference in 2015,  that the Professor who operated on her told her that the nurses in the operating theatre FAINTED when she allegedly sat up whilst still on the operating  table. (See video link above.)  However, when giving an interview to Charisma Magazine she did not make this claim and instead claimed that the Doctor who operated told her “she scared the tripe out of every nurse).  The story, as is usually the case with pathological liars,  is growing in ridiculous detail as the years go on and Wells requires more and more attention.  Wells, claims to have been laying on her side during the operation and with 600 stitches newly inserted into her body, she allegedly sat up and raised her arms and put her hand around the throat of the operating doctor! Hmmmmm…….

What a weak-kneed bunch of medical pansies must have been on duty that day!  It sounds like utter chaos in the operating theatre of the particular hospital involved.  Certainly, such details would be have been noted on medical notes, Wells, so feel free to back up your claim with medical records of the surgery.

Amanda wells claims to have had have 600 stitches as a result of the surgery.  Proof of the count Wells please?

Amanda Wells claims the operation took 10 hours. Medical verification please Wells.

Wells has claimed over the years to have consulted 95 doctors! The claim speaks for itself.

Wells claims to have had a “double transplant”.  How does she define a “double transplant”?

Wells claims in the video link above:

When she saw the professor in the ICU (recovery) she called out, “Oy! Ian! come here!”  What amazing capacity for recovery Wells displays in being able to be shouting out to someone upon regaining consciousness after such asserted serious surgery.    In Christian Women’s Magazine Wells relates this story somewhat differently, instead claiming she said much more politely, when she saw him “I want to talk to you.”


Below is an Amanda Wells interview in the Christian Women’s Magazine where she again refers to her story of dying on the operating table:

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*The bottom of this article has the transcription of the two above pictures from the Christian Women’s Magazine.*

In Christian Women’s Magazine, Wells claims that the Professor stated to her that “They had cut my abdominal.  They made quite a few mistakes’.  (Abdominal what? A Doctor claiming to have made mistakes?  Hhhmmmm…….)

Then in an amazing display of admission of surgical “mistakes”…….

The professor said to her:

“I nicked your abdominal aorta.  You bled out.”

“I also thrombosed your kidney.”

“I punctured your bladder”.

She then asserts that the Professor claims that then he saw the aorta “stop bleeding”, and it gave him enough time to “get her back”.  But wait……didn’t she just say she had already “bled out”!!!!

At around 1:09:16 on the video Wells claims that she had FIVE tubes in her “central line” indicating her neck area as she points to it with her hand………… then she indicates her mid-torso area and claims she had “about five tubes here” due to mistakes the medical staff had made!.  Now, by our arithmetic that amounts to TEN tubes altogether!  In the earlier interview she did with Christian Women’s magazine (much closer in time to the stated events), Wells claims “I had about four drainage tubes……….”  One can only wonder at what the number of tubes will rise to should Wells continue to be permitted to relate this fanciful tale. 

As Wells continues with her fanciful story and at 1.07:27 you will hear her actually claim that the Jesus she serves is an impotent Jesus who claims that He is unable to let her stay because “they won’t let you”. Presumably she is referring to those who were praying for her.

She claimed she had an epidural in for about 24 hours? And about 5 tubes in her mid-section due to “all the mistakes they [medical profesion] had made”

At 1:10:10 on the tape you will hear Wells claim that five days later she was playing table tennis with the youth from [the church]. 

     At 1:10:20 Wells claims she has had a “double transplant” and states as if it was some    huge miracle that she is on “no anti-rejection drugs whatsoever”. WHY WOULD ANYONE WHO DID NOT RECEIVE AN ORGAN FROM ANY DONOR NEED ANTI-REJECTION DRUGS!   The claim is correct but the intent is duplicitous and disgraceful intending, to lead people to continue to be under the illusion that Wells received an organ from another donor.  To use this story to promote herself as some sort of walking miracle Wells insults every person who has indeed been the donor or the recipient of life-saving organ transplant surgery by peddling such a concoction of lies.  She goes on to claim that she hasn’t “been to her kidney doctor since 2004”.  Now, she has let the cat out of the bag and mentioned that this surgery involved a “kidney”.  The surgery may have indeed involved her “kidney” but it most certainly did not involve any kidney from any donor….. Wells has questions to answer since she has traded off this story very successfully and elicited much sympathy and gained much attention from it for many years.  She claims that she has not returned to her kidney doctor because she considered it a “waste of money since all he ever did was to tell her to lose weight”!  Or was it Wells, that there was no medical reason for you to return to the doctor anymore as no on-going treatment was required which might have been required had you indeed had undergone a “major double transplant” procedure?

Now note, that in her interview for Christian Women’s Magazine, Wells claims that she was out of hospital on the 6th day and played ping pong at church on the seventh day”! Wells story, as with all pathological lying, alters considerably every time she relates a story.  (Read further references on this site to Pathological lying).  In this case, she has herself playing table tennis complete with 600 stitches still in her body, now only five days out of hospital where she had previously claimed (in her magazine article) that it was seven.  Such an important detail would not be forgotten over time unless someone was playing fast and loose with the truth. The adrenalin rush pathological liars receive from telling their stories compels them to continually make their stories more dramatic. 

A “major double transplant” surgery, with 600 stitches allegedly still in your body Wells and yet you were playing table tennis 5 days later?  And not once through the telling of this fantasy story, and the constant change of details over the years, did anyone ever question the voracity of the tale?  Amazing.  Of course, Wells and those of her ilk, don’t have to prove their stories to naïve listeners; they simply claim it was a miracle and all God’s doing and of course, no one wants to be seen questioning that; somewhat akin to the gullible people being afraid to question the emperor in the fairy tale of “The Emperor’s New Clothes”.  However, if indeed all these facts were true (choose whatever versions you most like!) then Wells would not be at all afraid to produce irrefutable medical evidence because we are not afraid to ask for that.  The Bible instructs us to check all things!

Note also in the article on Christian Women’s magazine Wells claims that when she visited Heaven, “ on my right-hand side was a throne……I couldn’t actually see the throne but ….  I saw the water….”.  So now she claims there was a throne but she didn’t actually see it.   If she didn’t see the throne, how did she know it was there on her right-hand side?  Of course, in listening to her describe this in her own words, one will notice a bit of fumbling and hesitation as she tries to get her story to make sense.  And then Wells claims Jesus was on her “left hand-side”… so, she places herself between Jesus and his throne?   And yet she did not actually see this throne – only “water”. The delusion is not even presented in any logical way.

The diabolical claims such as this one and others made by the fake teachers and prophets who do so with the express purpose of fooling and fleecing naïve people are responsible for sometimes irreparable damage to the delicate faith of many in the Body of Christ. 



*Christian Women’s Magazine transcription:

AMANDA WELLS is one dynamic lady. She has many ‘irons in the fire’ and wants to accomplish so much in her life. We have met several times and it’s always inspiring to talk to her. I’m not sure who talks more – Amanda or me-because we have a lot in common – talking about business and ministry and there is always a lot to fit in, in the short time we spend together. But, it’s always interesting and I love an in-depth conversation!

I spoke to Amanda about her ministry and also, importantly, the time she died on the operating table and spoke to Jesus. This has been the driving force behind her busy timetable. 

Amanda – your life is particulary busy  – tell me about the ministry you are involved in.

I have been in an itinerant ministry for about 20 years now. I have been in ministry to local churches here in Australia and around the world – particularly in Europe, Canada, and New Zealand. I have been to America and Africa, but I feel my passion is Europe. I have also spoken at conferences. I have started some humanitarian organizations as well. I have also gone into a business side as well. Now I am coaching, particularly Christians, who are feeling they have something inside them – a dream a destiny, but are unable to fulfill it – the coaching is called ‘Passion to Purpose to Product in 90 days’. Seeing Christians just come out of themselves after being coached, and doing what God says has really been blessing me. 

I particularly want to talk about when you went into hospital to have an operation and you died on the table and how this has driven you to accomplish all God has for you.

It was in 1995 – I had been sick for quite some time. I had a very rare kidney disease and I was dying. I was only about 35 kilos at the time. I was in the intensive care part of the transplant unit in Brisbane. I decided that if I didn’t have the operation I could possibly die. I did have the operation, it was a massive operation and it had only been done once before. So, we had decided to go ahead and it was a 10 hour operation where they took my kidney and transplanted it within me because of the rare syndrome.

At one point on the operating table I remember being in heaven and it was a very profound moment and it has really crystalized my life since then. As I was there I remember seeing so much. I remember seeing the colours, the water and Jesus was on my left hand side and he looked into my eyes and I will never forget the love that he had, but also how he saw everything about me. Jesus was on my left hand side, he was dressed in white, but it was so white that it honestly looked like light. It is so true he is dressed in light! I took more notice of His eyes; they were piercing, yet were like pools of love. Even though those eyes seemed to know all my yesterdays and my tomorrows and knew me inside out, the love in those eyes was immeasurable.

Heaven was full of life. The colours were beyond what we see here. From the throne it seemed were colours in flashing light. The water that flowed was amazing!

As you walk on the grass in heaven it doesn’t flatten as it does on earth. There in constant sound in heaven; some I did not totally comprehend. It was worship but beyond what I had ever heard.

Everything in heaven responds to honour the King. Everything, every living thing.

Authority in Heaven is quite amazing. I do not believe we have had a revelation of authority and honour as it is in Heaven.

At that point he had said to me these words: “What have you done with the gift of life – what have I done with my life that he has given me. I didn’t answer, because there was no real answer, because there was no real answer. At that point I heard two prayer: I hear the prayer of my pastor as he prayed in the spirit and I knew what he was saying and it was like heaven was at attention when he prayed. The authority that happens in heaven, the dominion that we have where it says, “I have given you dominion under the earth, on the earth and above the earth” – it just blew me away. That this is the one area that churches really do fight against – praying in the spirit, But there is power in this.

The other voice was my doctor, who was a Christian. He was calling me back. I knew exactly what he said. The one voice I didn’t hear was my husband’s, but I did say to him later, “I hope you were praying for me,” I said laughingly.

I remember waking up in recovery – I called my doctor over who was a professor and I said to him, “I want to speak to you.”

He said, “I want to speak to you, but I will speak to you tomorrow when you are fully awake.”

So, he walked in very early the next morning and he said, “I want to talk to you about what happened.”

I said, “I want to tell you first what happened.” I talked to him about my encounter. I said to him, “This was the prayer that you prayed during the operation.”

He said, “That was word for word what I said. Now let me tell you what happened.” They had cut my abdominal, It was a mess! They made quite a few mistakes. He said he almost saw the hand of God just stop the flow of blood. It was a real panic and there was an emergency. They got me back and they stitched me up. He explained, “You have to remember that you had 600 stitches inside and out.” I looked like Jaws. He continued, “We had an epidural in your back which was to stop the pain and movement for a few days.” I had IV’; I had about four drainage tubes. “I called you back, got you stitched up, finished the operation, we took the tube out and as we did you sat bold upright on the operating table, grabbed me around the throat and screamed at me, ‘What did you call me back for?’ He said, “You terrified me and scared the tripe out of every nurse.”

It was such a profound experience of heaven – when Jesus said to me, “What have you done with the life I have given you?” I know I cannot die again – I will not go home until I fulfil everything he has asked me to fulfil.”

In heaven, on my right hand side was a throne – I couldnt’ actually see the throne, but I saw ….. I saw the water. I just knew that if I could get into that water I would be okay. Under the water there were so many beautiful jewels – I cannot explain all this. There were some personal things that Jesus actually did for me, especially with the jewels. I saw some angels but the beauty of heaven! I was a mother of three children at that point and I did not want to come back. It really showed me we need to get someone soon enough when we want to resurrect them. Once you get them into heaven they don’t want to come back. If you’ve got them in hell the enemy has got a hold on them. That’s why it’s so important that we pray immediately when someone has died, to grab them quickly. To me it was just an answer as to why we can’t raise the dead when we are told we can. That may be part of the answer – they are in there, they are not coming back. One thing the Lord said to me, “They will not let you.” However, I had not fulfilled things that I should have fulfilled – I knew I had to come back. Others may not care.

In heaven the colours are incredible – the sky just goes on to eternity. Our sky hides us from heaven. I want to go back when I can say to my Lord and Saviour, “I did everything you called me to do. I empty myself; I am giving myself to you.”

Your situation in heaven and what God spoke to you about has had a profound effect on your ministry now?

Yes, a profound effect. I should say there is a story as to why. I got offended and I was really hurt. That offence built up – it was an offence in church. At that time we lost everything. We had a master franchise business and the fanchisor took  off with almost $1 million – we lost everything. We had to sell everything – we had to sell our cars, we had to sell the house. If there had been e-bay at the time I probably would have sold the kids!

i got angry, I got hurt and I got offended. That is I believe, what actually caused me to get as sick as I did. One thing in my life – I will not get offended anymore. The days of the operation I said to the Lord, “Forgive me.” I needed to repent. After that massive operation I was out of hospital in six days. I played ping pong at church on the seventh day! God really touched me. I remember standing, crying in the bathroom of my hospital ward. I looked at the scar and just cried. The Lord just so sweetly said to me, “Warriors have scars.” Yes, this was a war, most of it was my own doing, but I have won a war over offense that will never get me again.

What is the main theme of your voice to the people – particularly to women?

It is to meet their destiny. There are so many things women have that they just don’t tap into – they get busy. As women, that’s who we are – we start fulfilling everyone else’s needs but we don’t meet our own. I am a mum, I have three children, I have a grandchild, a business, and I minister and I do all this well. You can do it.

The other thing: so many women have prophetic words and never see them come to pass. That’s part of my passion, to work through those prophetic words so they do come to pass. Right now I am doing a program with Caroline Marsh from the UK, who is a millionaire – she is a wonderful Christian and one of the UK’s wealthiest women. We are now working on a program where we are going to help women particularly come into their total full potential and break that glass ceiling that particularly is on women in Australia and Europe.

How do you see the importance of women in business and ministry? 

I think they are imperative. If we look at history – women have taken the world out of nearly every crisis that it has ever been in. You go back and look at Debra, look at Esther, Ruth – right through the Bible. Then we go back and look at World War I and when the men came home broken emotionally and physically it was the women who really got the world back and financially got the family back together. It was the same with the women in World War II and just recently we have seen in England, David Cameron, the Prime Minister, actually put a call out for women in rise up and be entrepreneurs and he is giving them 15,000 pounds to start businesses. He even recognizes that women have such an effect on the economy that we can actually change the world. I think women need to understand this. We are born to be nation changers.

What would you say to women now?

One of the biggest things with women is we tend to become complacent. We look at everybody else’s needs. I would say to take time out to get with God and ask him, “What is the life you have given me? What’s in my heart?” Really do some hard questions yourself. Ask, “What is my passion?” Then don’t stop until you get God’s process of how you can fulfil your destiny. And don’t let other people put you down. You’ve got to be your own best cheerleader. When you get up in the morning tell yourself how awesome you are and what a great person you are. You can do it! One woman in my coaching class wanted to be a doctor and she was 40 – she has now just gone into medicine. It doesn’t matter how old you are or what the world has said, when God puts something in your life, no man, no woman; nothing can stop you except yourself.

Lynn Goldsmith
Editor-in-Chief

Did Evangelista have a hand in writing one of Wells’ plagiarized books?

We’ve proven that Amanda Wells’ book, “There Shall Be No Poor Among You,” contains plagiarized material. However, the Special Thanks section at the beginning of the book ties in several people as “helping” Amanda Wells create the plagiarized piece:

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“A SPECIAL THANKS TO

My beautiful Pastors Tom and Katherine Ruonala and Glory City Church, a house of love!

To Heather Montgomerie who took this raw product and through hours of tedious editing turned it into a readable product I could send to the publisher. Heather, you and your gift are sent by God.

To all the team at Evangelista Media, they are like family to me.”

According to Amanda Wells, Heather Montgomerie had a hand in editing this plagiarized book. Heather Montgomerie has also been mentioned as one of the proof readers of Katherine Ruonala’s book, “Living in the Miraculous: How God’s Love is Expressed Through the Supernatural.”image001.png

“To Sheila Williams, Sarah Cheesman, Tony Slaughter, Heather Montgomerie, and Chris Wyman: thank you all for your help with the proofreading process. I am so grateful for your help.”

This leads us to ask if Pastors Tom and Katherine Ruonala and Pietro Evangelista also contributed to the plagiarized piece, “There Shall Be No Poor Among You”?

It seems odd that Amanda Wells attributed this self published book of hers to the Publishing company Evangelista Media (formerly known as “Destiny Image Publishing.”

Victim #1

It seems the Weeding Out Wells website is attracting a considerable amount of interest from several countries. One follower has contacted us and alerted us to an encounter that they had with Wells. Given what transpired, the writer was concerned about Wells’ state of mind when it occurred and asked to remain anonymous. We respect and will honor that; however, we have no control over what Wells does. Should Wells choose to post the screenshot that she claims to have, we cannot be held accountable for that information being released.

Wells has been known in the past to use social media to make adverse comments about other people’s businesses. This was one such occasion. For some reason, Wells felt it necessary to let the world know about her negative shopping experience and was condescending to say the least about junior sales staff in a certain store which we understand is in Queensland, Australia.

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The writer wrote this below the above Wells post:

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The writer was quickly blocked from Amanda Wells’ facebook page, and then Wells did something totally astounding! Read what happens next:

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The writer was horrified to being blocked, and the writer’s friend, who is a Glory City Church goer, helped grab the above screenshot and was also mortified.

As is obvious from what Wells posted, she is no stranger to lying and exaggerating. Note the person who commented on Wells’ facebook page did not give any detail as to when Wells was at the church, nor indeed was where she lived apart of that post.

To claim that she got a screenshot of it is clearly false because what was posted is not what Wells claims. What was it Wells allegedly sent to facebook? What celebrity status does Wells think she enjoys that Facebook would attend to her complaints within a few minutes? What was so wrong with that post from the writer that Facebook had to immediately terminate it?

But thanks Amanda Wells for warning others of the nutters out there.

Please email heresyhunter99@gmail.com to submit your story.

Written Plagiarism – Exhibit 23: Amanda teaches us about Spiritual Warfare (from Os Hillman)

The false prophet, Amanda Wells, shamelessly and continually plagiarises other people’s work and presents it as her own. To understand the context and the severity of her plagiarism, please read this article:

Amanda Wells’ background

This article exposes Amanda Wells not only plagiarising work from Os Hillman, but she inserts herself into his memory. 


WRITTEN PLAGIARISM EXHIBIT 01

In this exhibit, you will read Article 1 and Article 2.

Article 1 will be an article Amanda Wells has published as her own on Amanda Wells Coaching/Amanda Wells Ministries.
Article 2 will be the original article she plagiarised from. The parts she plagiarised will be highlighted in red.

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Watch Article 1 of Amanda Wells plagiarising Article 2 and read along.


Article 1

Amanda Wells “writes” on her FaceBook account,

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Reference: Amanda Wells Coaching, Facebook, https://www.facebook.com/AmandaWellsCoaching/posts/761606617302752, Published 26/02/2016 10:21 am. (Accessed 01/06/2016.)


 

Article 2

Os Hillman writes,

 

“For our struggle is not against flesh and blood….” – Ephesians 6:12

Have you ever heard someone say, “I will never do business with another Christian”? I hear this comment quite often in my dealings with Christian workplace believers. This comment represents the battle that rages against us by the enemy of our soul to destroy the witness and effectiveness of Christian workplace believers. We must realize that we are in a war – a war for the souls of men, a war to discredit all that a Christian stands for, a war that is designed to divide Christian against Christian.

Satan’s ploy in the life of Christian workplace believers is to do several things to make them ineffective as soldiers in the workplace. First, he wants to discredit them by allowing them to fail other people in their professional services. This often shows up in failing to perform what they committed to do or performing in an unsatisfactory way. Sometimes, this is a result of a downright failure of the workplace believer to perform with excellence. In other cases, it may be a misunderstanding in the midst of the service that causes strife and division instigated by the enemy.

The result in both cases is the same: a division among Christians and even non-Christians, further resulting in a damaged witness for Christ. The apostle Peter admonishes us to “live such good lives among the pagans that, though they accuse you of doing wrong, they may see your good deeds and glorify God on the day He visits us” (1 Pet. 2:12).

There are times when each of us is thrust into situations out of our control. Sometimes this results in our inability to pay a bill on time, or to deliver a service. Defeating satan in these battles requires extra communication with those with whom we are dealing. If the motive of your heart is to do right, then God will give you favor in order to work through these difficult spots. Ask God today to show you where the enemy is seeking to make you ineffective.

We wage a spiritual war that is not flesh and blood. We must fight this war with spiritual weapons applied to practical daily living.”

Reference: Os Hillman, Spiritual Warfare, https://www.raptureforums.com/forums/threads/tgif-spiritual-warefare.73417/, Published 26/02/2013. (Accessed 03/22/2017.)

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Enabler #6

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Steve Schultz peddler of the Delusory Elijah List is an Enabler of Amanda Wells.

“Not everyone who says to Me, “Lord, Lord,” shall enter the kingdom of heaven, but he who does the will of My Father in heaven. Many will say to Me in that day, “Lord, Lord, have we not prophesied in Your name, cast out demons in Your name, and done many wonders in Your name?” And then I will declare to them, “I never knew you; depart from Me, you who practice lawlessness!” Matthew 7:23

Steve Schultz is either one of the most deluded people on the planet or one of the cleverest fraudsters in Christian circles.

It is difficult to understand how this charlatan could have succeeded for so long in working the hoax he has perpetrated on those claiming to be a part of the Body of Christ.

Steve Schultz was a great admirer and follower of false prophet Bob Jones (now deceased) who was removed from ministry on the grounds of sexual misconduct. Bob Jones claimed that the best prophets were only 65% accurate and some were as low as 10%! (That doesn’t say much for the worst of them!) As early as February 23 of 2011, Steve Shultz posted on the Elijah List site:

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“I was honored years ago when Bob Jones came to my property. There are few prophets that I almost ‘insist’ that when they prophesy, I listen. Bob Jones is one of them. When he prophesies, I really tune in. Now, I don’t post anyone unless I trust them, mind you, but some I trust even more than others. Bob Jones is one such person. He is my friend and a high-level prophet.”

[So, given that Steve Schultz posted Amanda Wells’ “prophecies” many times, he, by his own admission in this statement, “trusts her”.]

Bob Jones is yet another fake who claimed to have been transported to the throne room of Heaven. The traffic in that “room” must become quite heavy on some days as a growing number of wolves and buffoons claim to visit there on a regular basis. Amanda Wells is one of those who claims to have not only entered the “room” but to have “strategized with the Trinity”. It’s quite incredible that people listening to Wells speak and those who have heard and read these claims, not only believe her but go forward during her appearances to get her blessing in order to be able to experience these “encounters” themselves.

Worse still is the realisation that there are individuals claiming the title of “Pastor” who invite this kind of nonsense into their churches, thus putting their vulnerable and naïve sheep at risk. A shepherd who does not recognise a wolf is not fit to be a shepherd at all!  Any person who has attended a Conference or been a member of a church where a Pastor has condoned the delusions of this fake prophet should be by now running away as fast as they can. Listen and take heed fellow Christians:

NO ONE HAS EVER SEEN GOD!!!

How can we say this with unerring confidence? Because the Word of God says so! The Bible tells us that no one has ever seen God (John 1:18) except the Lord Jesus Christ. Exodus 33:20, God declares, “You cannot see my face, for no one may see me and live.”

Over and over again in the Bible we are given examples of what happened to people when they so much as heard the voice of God and in no case was sitting around and having a chat with Him and “strategizing” something any of them did! There should be red flags raised and screaming alarms going off whenever someone is claiming to have “seen God”. Amanda Wells’ numerous claims that she has been in His presence and had a friendly chat with Him should be enough to convince any sane person that she is s false prophet and dangerous wolf in the church.

But not so Steve Schultz it seems!

When it comes to the “prophets” whom Steve Schultz promotes, it would seem accuracy is not a priority as far as he is concerned: nor would it seem, given his adulation of Bob Jones, and others who have appeared on the Elijah List over time, is moral failure of any concern. And yet this list of bogus “prophets” and their latest fanciful delusions still enjoys considerable popularity amongst some sections of the church body.

And the more prophets who come to Steve Schultz’s “List” the more affluent Shultz becomes as the income generated by the List increases.

The Elijah List’s own claim should be enough to convince people that what they are dealing with is nothing but a collection of whimsical ravings of people who have nothing better to do with their time.

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Note the words “what prophetic people SENSE that God is saying”! Could they be any plainer themselves about the fact that they think of these ravings as nothing more than what is something concocted in the mind of certain individuals? By using this evasive phrasing instead of endorsing these prophecies as Words straight from God, Schultz hedges his bets and gives himself an escape plan should any prophecies later prove to be inaccurate. The duplicitous claim that the list posts what people “SENSE” God is saying is by Schultz’s own words, an admission that this list is just a conglomeration of thoughts and fantasies.

Schultz has been cunning enough to tap into a practice as old as time itself.
Fortune-telling. In the same way as myriads of people across the world read the predictions for their star sign in the newspapers and magazines each day, so the deluded followers of the Elijah List reach for their daily dose of “prophecy”. Steve Schultz will even email you a daily prophecy if you subscribe to his “List” of bogus star gazers, dream weavers and fortune tellers.

When Amanda Wells decided she was a prophet from God, Steve Schultz no doubt saw more dollar signs in his eyes and proceeded to promote her. He didn’t have to look far for a ringing endorsement as his good friend Katherine Ruonala who has proclaimed herself to be the head of the Australian Prophetic Council was already singing Wells’ praises at every opportunity.

Did either Schultz or Ruonala check out the credentials and the stories of Amanda Wells? In light of what has eventuated over time, it would seem they did not. But then why would they have any need to do so? After all they are great prophets themselves and if there had been a wolf in their midst would they not have known? Would God not have immediately “spoken” to them and warned them?

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The fact is that neither one of these opportunistic individuals is a “prophet”. But both make a great deal of money out of pretending to be so; and those who put credence in either of these two individuals or any of the others claiming to be “prophets” do so because they want to believe. Katherine Ruonala even holds classes which “teach” others how to prophecy. The classes are costly and no doubt a good money grabber for her Glory City Church. We understand that when people enroll in these classes, they are even provided with “work books”! Yes! A work book on how to be a prophet! And the hapless souls who hand across money for this scam spend their time in the classes simply being convinced that the thoughts running through their head are actually words from God. When these naïve individuals become efficient at convincing others that they are hearing from God they can apparently then enroll in an ADVANCED School of prophets! Looking for signs and wonders will NEVER satisfy, and the only sign and wonder we need is Jesus Christ Himself and his suffering and death on the cross in order that we might be saved.

Steve Schultz, Propagator of the Elijah List and Katherine Ruonala, founder of the Australian Prophetic Council, who both at one time acclaimed Amanda Wells as an accurate prophet with a “proven track record”, each, when the plethora of information surfaced regarding Wells being other than who she claimed to be, clandestinely removed Wells and her “prophecies” from their lists. Neither has had the courage or the integrity to explain this sudden erasure of all these previously acclaimed “accurate” prophecies, instead just living in hope that no one would notice or raise unanswerable questions. In the absence of public statements or explanations (much less the outright denouncing of Wells and her fanciful “prophecies”) it is nothing short of astounding that people continue to give credence to Schultz and Ruonala and their self-seeking promotion of every ego-driven, attention-seeking, dope who for some inexplicable reason thinks that every thought that passes through their brains must be shared with the rest of the world as a message from God.

 

Whack a Wells

Amanda Wells has the following message on her website:

“Recently my church leadership have approached me in a loving and caring way concerning some accusations that have been made against me. In discussion with them, I can see where I have presented material from other people without giving credit. It thus could be seen as presenting it as my own. For this I am truly sorry.

I will be contacting those whose material I have used, acknowledging my error and asking for forgiveness.

I have also submitted myself to my leadership and will be taking a period of time off to receive ministry and obtain healing from my local church family.

For the wider body of Christ, please accept my apology and please pray for me as I journey through to health and restoration.

In love – Amanda” (Emphasis ours)

We would like to ask Amanda Wells how those she’s stolen from are able to contact her if she keeps putting up and taking down her Facebook page?

Well for those of you who have been stolen from and need to contact her here is her facebook page:

https://www.facebook.com/amanda.wells.9256028?fref=ts

It’s only up an hour or so at at time, which could mean that Amanda Wells is using it as a free way to send out private messages to her friends before quickly hiding her facebook again. So, be sure to be on the lookout for this facebook page:

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Additional Contact information for Amanda Wells can be found here:

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Amanda Wells wrote a book on fitness?

According to Amazon, goodreads, and Prettyfamous, Amanda Wells is the author of “Starting a Life of Fitness.”

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If this is indeed true then here are all five of her books:

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Notice that NONE of these five books were published through Destiny Image Publishing House with Don Nori like Amanda Wells claims on her website.

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The first two books were published through Destiny Image Europe/Evangelista Media with Pietro Evangelista. The other three books were SELF PUBLISHED.


Because the evidence would have the public believe that Amanda Wells’ LAST book, “Starting a Life of Fitness,” is hers, we must point out some inconsistencies in the “About the Author” info listed beneath this book on Amazon:

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About the Author:
“Amanda and her husband Roger reside in Brisbane, Australia. Their two daughters and son-in-law live in Brisbane also and their son now resides in the UK. Amanda has been in ministry for more than 20 years and was the woman s minister in her local church for eight years. She has ministered in more than 17 nations to people of different cultures and nationalities. Amanda and Roger have a Training School in Brisbane teaching Kingdom dynamics.” (Emphasis Ours)

Compare this to the “About the Author” information under “There Shall Be No Poor Among You”,which was published February 1st, 2014 just ten months prior:

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About the Author:
“Amanda Wells lives in beautiful Queensland Australia, with her husband Roger, and close by are her 3 children, son and daughter in law and grandchild. She has been described as a dynamic, powerful visionary and humanitarian whose passion is for people to engage their spheres of influence to bring transformation and she is committed to the growth and empowerment of entrepreneurs, businesses and corporate entities around the globe through teaching, not only high-level cutting-edge authentic marketing and business strategies – but also transformational techniques to shift mindsets and wealth. She teaches how to create successful businesses based in a person’s passion, attract an on-going stream of customers, clients and income — while creating a life of meaning and purpose. After 25 years of itinerate ministry in 63 Nations she passionately believes that education is the key to liberty and the change this affords will be the foundation for a successful future and transformation in a community and culture. As a successful international speaker at many levels and platforms, including business and corporate, and within the worldwide Christian community, she is loved for her humour and her content rich delivery and leaves her audiences believing they can accomplish anything, in both their personal and professional lives! Amanda has 5 books published through Destiny Image Publishing House and as a life and business coaching to businesses, corporations and leaders in every field, has developed and co developed a number of coaching programs. Amanda is a regional director for the Australian Prophetic Council and is an ordained pastor through Glory City Church and through the HIM Network.” (Emphasis Ours)

Roger Wells was involved in ministry work with Amanda Wells in 2000 and was still involved in 2014, according to the bio of what we’ve been led to believe is Wells’ fifth book. So our question is where does Roger Wells fit in with all of this? He appears to be involved in the ministry when it’s convenient. Therefore, was he aware that his wife, Amanda Wells, was plagiarising the works of other authors?

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Review #10

Pastor Chris Rosebrough of Kongsvinger Lutheran Church and Captain of Pirate Christian Radio has taken “Pastor” and “Prophetess” Amanda Wells to task in the past.

Click on the link below to take a listen to Chris Rosebrough’s review of Amanda Wells:

Trading the Truth for a Mess of Rancid Beans

PROGRAM SEGMENTS:

00:06:51 Amanda Wells Dreams a Dream About Dreaming
00:37:45 Katt Kerr Basic Training in the Spirit Realm
00:50:52 Jesse Duplantis Details Regarding His Trip to Heaven
01:16:11 Sermon Review: Arresting Your Thoughts by Scott Thornton Life Church, New Zealand

Source: Chris Rosebrough, Pirate Christian Radio, http://www.piratechristian.com/fightingforthefaith/2016/4/trading-the-truth-for-a-mess-of-rancid-beans?rq=Amanda%20Wellshttp://www.piratechristian.com/fightingforthefaith/2016/4/trading-the-truth-for-a-mess-of-rancid-beans?rq=Amanda%20Wells; Published 12/04/2016, Accessed 27/02/2017)

Exhibit #10

WARNING: YOUR IQ MIGHT LOWER AFTER READING/LISTENING TO WELLS’ SERMON!

Uploaded to Youtube 5th June, 2011:

This video has been downloaded so if it’s removed we’ll put it right back up.

Moderator’s Note:
The content of this talk by Wells is so theologically flawed that we feel we must address some of our concerns regarding it. However we will do that over time. For the purpose of this Exhibit #10 at this time we wish to attend to the false personal claims which are contained in it about which Wells’ sister was invited to comment. However, this is a transcription of the video and it will become quickly apparent when one reads it, just how garbled and self-serving it is. Readers would do well to read the complete transcript where she even belittles the abilities of Oprah Winfrey in an attempt to build herself up. This message has nothing to do with the Gospel of Jesus Christ.

Video Transcript:
5:31 Everson introduces Wells.

“And now Amanda. I was with Amanda a couple of weeks ago in Toronto. And it was great to see Amanda in Toronto. Come along, I’m not going to take any more of your time…………. we love her dearly….

[Wells goes to stage and the two embrace.]

5:51 [Wells begins to arrange her “products” on the lectern which is her established behaviour before she begins to speak on every occasion. She begins to speak but there is no sound. Woman climbs to stage and draws Well’s attention to the fact that her microphone is not turned on then bends to lift Well’s coat and attend to the microphone. Stifled giggling from audience during awkward silence……]

Wells now has sound.

6:10 “Whoo…. there we go. [Continues looking down and busily rearranging her books on the lecturn] Ah…wha….what a couple of weeks. I was in Toronto with Pastor Les, and..ah… what a time, and then I came home last week… ah…. I got home Wednesday and then Thursday our daughter-in-law went into labour… with our first grandchild. She finally 69 hours later decided to HAVE the baby. It was the longest baby I’ve ever………… I was over it by then. You kno………… and then ………so I’ve just become a grandmother and then I was on a flight again and we’re um…….. with ah…. Robin and eh…. I love Robin …….. she’s…… she travels with me…. um ….. to Italy. She’s the only one who can …cop the pace in Italy. So we’re off to Italy this week.

[Note that for this entire time since appearing on stage Wells has been looking down and rearranging papers and books on the lectern and has chosen not to yet look up at her audience. Wells eventually finishes fiddling with her books.]

6:49 “But it’s such an honour to be back here and I know that you have all been on such a journey…. but it’s not an end…. it’s a beginning. And this is an awesome time to be alive. And this church is growing ….. to just see the seed… that is coming in this church is absolutely amazing. I love it you know tonight I’ve got….. I’ve got a bit of a word for the church and I’ve also got a word for a few people. But because of time constraint this morning I don’t want to do that… I’ll do it tonight. And so if you don’t come and I’ve got one for you tonight……..well….eh.eh… .. well…you miss out ……….you know …. but anyway…….. I’ve ah ……………… ah..we’ve got a few things up here………..

[Wells has now started to fiddle with her “products” on the lectern again……. Now as she speaks she holds her “products” up for the audience to see. As with every Wells’ appearance note that she begins again by peddling her “products” prior to speaking.]

Transcriber’s NOTE:
Matthew 21:12-13 English Standard Version (ESV) Jesus Cleanses the Temple 12 And Jesus entered the temple[a] and drove out all who sold and bought in the temple, and he overturned the tables of the money-changers and the seats of those who sold pigeons. 13 He said to them, “It is written, ‘My house shall be called a house of prayer,’ but you make it a den of robbers.”]

Wells continues:
7:20 I’ve ah ……………… ah..we’ve got a few things up here………..I’ve haven’t got many ‘cause I’m going to Italy where they don’t speak English so there was no point in bringing much stock. But we’ve got two … um…. two workbooks in one…. and …. uh …..it’s also on the CD …..eh…on the USB …. you’ve got the DVD and the CD……. “The Seed of Honour”…. which honestly has been um….. it’s been amazing when I’ve actually preached….eh …. and … uh …..that’s the full workbook and we’ve also got Financial Freedom which takes you through everything……… having a prosperous soul …..right through to a wealthy mindset……. right through to business….everything…. and on here we’ve got… um it says 10 CD’s and DVD’s….. they’re not ………we’ve got 21…. and one of those I’ve just realised on there is the full conference I did on “shame”….. um….which was about five uh……..s… um…..s……….different uh….sessions on shame which is what I did with some of the youth last night. So you can ….um……. we’ve only got a few so if you want one you will have to be quick….

Transcribers note:
As Wells speaks about each of these products she holds them up and then places them to the side of the lectern one by one.

Amanda Wells continues:
8:13 Let’s pray. Father I just thank you for this morning. I thank you Lord for what you’re about to do. I thank you for what you’re doing in this house. I thank you for every person… I thank you Lord that this house is on a journey….. it’s in a… on a journey to victory …….. it’s on a journey to growth……….it’s on a journey from faith to faith…to glory to glory….…. from hope to hope ….. and Father I thank you as the Word goes forth this morning that chains will be broken……that lives will be freed under the anointing of God. We thank you Holy Ghost. We thank you that you’ve come…… that you always are here and you’re here doing a work in each one of our lives. And in Jesus name I thank you that every word that comes forth will be words full of faith and full of…. the impacting nature of God today….. in Jesus’ name.

Transcribers note:
Finally Wells introduces her subject for the morning. “It’s a Change of Season”. And it would seem that it was aptly named. The stories which Wells peddles are as changeable as the seasons themselves.

Amanda Wells continues:
9:05 “There has been a change of season. I guess you a….as a church have realised it probably more than ….. than any other.………and we have to know our season. The sons of Issachar knew the seasons and the times…. you know we look at that and we think that they just knew the spiritual times but actually the sons of Issachar understood the seasons and the change politically, economically ….. they knew when the world was changing… and the world is on such a time of change…. nothing has been the same ….I mean who would have thought the Middle East would have been where it is and we have to understand the generations…… we’ve got to understand the season of time generationally ….because this is not just a .. i…i ….if you’ve notice it’s not just a gender thing anymore … this is a genderational seasonal…… seasonal change …. it’s a bit like your ….. your word this morning ….. that’s …a mouthful.

“But God is using both men and women and today we’re in the 2011… and the number 11 is significant because the first time that the number 11 was ever used in the Bible…. it was time of a whole season of change. An…and a season of change ta…to…..took place for Jacob. An … and it …. it means a tipping point and we’re seeing such a tipping point today. I mean just this year we’ve seen earthquakes…. we’ve seen floods….. we’ve seen….. um …..…… tsunamis…… in just 6 months ….and we’ve seen the Middle East in …. in revolution and so the body of Christ must understand where we are. And because if we do not know where we are and we don’t shift and take advantage of this season when the tipping point happens we actually miss what God’s going to do. And if we don’t change in the season we come paralysed in the last season and so many Christians are paralysed in the last season…. and so God wants us to move into this new season. The purpose we come to church is not just to sit but it’s to be trained. And it’s to be trained to be sent out into the systems of society. We are to go from glory to glory…. from faith to flaith [sic]. And when the tok…clocks ticked over in 2011 we were plunged into a new season.

11:26 “We were plunged into 2011…… and I believe this is harvest time like we’ve never seen it before. Two tho..…. 2010….. number 10 means a time of testing is completed…. but the number 11 is double one…… it means double favour……double favour in ministry ….. double favour in family ….. double favour in business……. double favour in career…….. double favour in your wealth……. it is time to seize the day! No matter what‘s happened it is time for us to stand and say “Let us seize the day”.!

“People have said to me “Amanda, with all of th… the…. the earthquakes and the floods and the civil unrest, it must mean that Jesus is coming back.” But in Matthew 24 verse 14 it says “Jesus said, ‘And the good news of the gospel of the Kingdom will be preached throughout the whole world so that all nations will hear it and then finally the end will come.’

“And then it says in verse 6, “You will hear of wars, rumours of wars, but see that you’re not alarmed…. such things must happen but the end won’t follow immediately. So is this the end? No!… unfortunately ….no. Not yet…. because the gospel of the Kingdom must be preached. And so the end is not just the signs of earthquakes, floods, civil unrest…. but th… this is a time when this happens we must be ready because this is a season to create new testimonies. This is a season to create something for the Kingdom of God

“Jesus said ‘The harvest is ready but there are so few labourers… a… and we looked at this and just thought salvation. But I believe this is a harvest of people….. this is harvest of wealth… this is a harvest of testimony….. this is a harvest of every single thing that you can imagine. And I wanna say let’s seize the day ‘cause we wanna be ready… we wanna create those new testimonies. Harvest of salvation…….harvest of provision…… harvest of connection …………harvest of wealth…………. Are you ready today? I don’t’ know about you but I am!

Moderator’s note:
So at around 12:13 Wells claims “this is the time to create something for the Kingdom of God” going on to say that it is not about salvation but about “harvest of wealth”. One can only be astounded that not only the “Pastor” but the congregation members were not immediately alerted to the fact that they were hearing a “different gospel” and immediately walk out or have her removed from the stage. Why are those professing to be Christians tolerating this?

Galation 1: 6:9 “I am astonished that you are so quickly deserting him who called you in the grace of Christ and are turning to a different gospel— 7. not that there is another one, but there are some who trouble you and want to distort the gospel of Christ. 8. But even if we or an angel from heaven should preach to you a gospel contrary to the one we preached to you, let him be accursed. 9. As we have said before, so now I say again: If anyone is preaching to you a gospel contrary to the one you received, let him be accursed.” ESV

Amanda Wells continues:
13:33 “Let’s go to Matthew 10 and I wanna sp…. preach very quickly on something….. on this new change of season. Matthew 10, verses 46 to 42. And it says “Then, they came to Jericho”, meaning Jesus and his disciples…. “as Jesus and his disciples together with a large crowd were leaving the city, a blind man called Bartimaeus which means son of Timaeus was sitting by the road side begging. And when he heard that it was Jesus of Nazareth, he began to shout “Jesus, son of David have mercy on me”. And many rebuked him and told him to be quiet.

But he shouted all the more, “Son of David have mercy on me!” And Jesus stopped and said “Call him”.

“And so they that had just told him to shut up now actually called him and said “Cheer up”. Isn’t that just like people? One minute they tell you to shut up and the next minute they’re saying “Cheer up”!

“And then they’re saying “On your feet! He’s calling you”. Throwing his cloak aside, he jumped to his feet, he came to Jesus, and he said…….. and Jesus said, “What do you want me to do for you? I mean hello Jesus, he’s blind…… what do you think he wants you to do!

“We’re going to talk about that in a minute…… and Jesus asked him and the blind man said, “Rabbi, I want to see.”

And Jesus said “Go. Your faith has healed you immediately” and he received sight and followed Jesus along the road.

15:00 “Number 1. He came to Jericho. This was a specific time… it was a specific place….. i…it was a specific…..ah…..eh ….. area…..i …it was Jericho. It wasn’t Swindon. It wasn’t Brisbane. It wasn’t Perth. It was Jericho. And I wanna show us how this blind beggar called Bartimaeus can actually be a coach to us in this new season. And I really sense that .. a..as we‘ve looked at this new season that we’ve gotta look at some things. And we’ve gotta be ready for this new season.

And so Number 1. How can he be a coach? He was ready to seize the moment. Jesus in ….a.. said in this place ….. in Jericho, a blind man decided “I am not leaving this place till I get my miracle. I am not leaving here…… I am not leaving where I am seated today, where I positioned today, I am not leaving until I get my miracle. He said this is where there will be significant change in my life”.

“And if you need significant change, you gotta turn around like blind Bartimaeus this year and you gotta say “I am not leaving this place until I get my miracle!”.

16:13 “Although he had issues he was looking forward ….. and he was looking at the opportunity….. he heard…. he heard that Christ was coming. Wasn’t he the one who turned water into wine….. wasn’t he the one who fed the five thousand………… wasn’t he the one that caused the blind eyes to see…… wasn’t he the one that unstopped the ears of the deaf? He’d heard because he couldn’t actually see actually see him with his eyes. And you know when the message comes, you hear the message. Some people are just wanting Jesus to turn up ….. they just want a manifestation to turn up. But this man couldn’t see a manifestation. He couldn’t even see Jesus with his eyes but he was able to hear … and when you hear a message…….. when Pastor Les speaks a message you gotta be like blind Bartimaeus and you’ve gotta say “I can hear the message come today and with that message I’m taking hold of it because I am not leaving this place until I get my miracle. I am not leaving this place until I’m changed…. I’m going to be sitting by the side of the road….. but when that message comes forward ….. when I hear the message in the morning…. I AM NOT GOING until God changes me…… I might not see a manifestation…… but it still doesn’t stop my ears from working…… I can still hear……the message.

“He realised that the message was coming and it was a solution to every issue …… presenting itself in his…… midst today was a divine opportunity and he was not going to miss it. How often we come to church and we miss that divine opportunity

“We think “Oh tithes and offering… it’s just going round again …. just pop a pound in the bucket”…. but it’s a divine opportunity. What was it about Jericho? Jericho in Hebrew means a season or a next cycle. Jericho actually in Hebrew means the place of possibility. You’ve gotta find your place …of Jericho.

Where is your Jericho today? Is it sitting here….. right here in Citifaith in Swindon? It was at the place where Joshua met with the King of Glory….where he manifested himself as the commander of the army of the host. It’s the place where God literally levelled the walls and took the people out of the wilderness and into the promised land. It’s the place where God says “Even if you’ve been stuck for forty years when I turn up I will take you into a place of possibility – that’s where Jericho is…. where you say “God this is my season of change”.

18:56 I might be blind, I might be in poverty, but I’m going to use what I’ve got to get into my next possibility. You have to recognise the next season and position yourself into a place of possibility. Citifaith Church you’re in a new season. Don’t be positioned as you were yesterday. Don’t be positioned even as you were last Sunday. This is the time to reposition yourself and say “This is our hour….. this is our season…. this is our tipping point for Swindon…..I’m gonna stand here and I’m gonna say “This is my..na…time for new possibility!”

“We may have been in disappointments, sickness, financial trouble but I wanna say to you today, it can be your place of possibility. Don’t let it be your place of defeat. Don’t let it be your place of failure. You know if…i…if there’s been a financial issue, turn around and say “Devil you’re not stealing my money….. I’m sowing it. I might be bankrupt … I’ll just sow that money because it’s going to become my place of possibility in the future…… I may have had sickness…… there may have even been death but Devil you better know one thing…… that that…eh…soul lost was a seed in the ground for many others. I’m not going to be defeated by this. That one seed is going to bring forth three hundred in an Alpha course Devil you thought you got me…… you thought you got us ………… but Devil you better know something…. I’m not blind Bartimeaus……. I might be still seeding on the side of the road…………… but it’s my place of possibility…… and I’m sowing that seed today and that seed is going to bring forth such a harvest ……

[audience begins to applaud in response to the increase in volume of the voice and motivational language being used]

“You dummy Devil……. didn’t you even realise? What you meant for harm God is going to turn around for good,”

20:52 And Jericho…. it’s a place of decision … it’s a place determination……. it’s a place of…. of…. vision where we allow ourselves to be challenged to go to the next level where we say I’m going to go …… and believe in Gods’ word no matter what. His name is above every name and whatever name you face today you’ve gotta decide that Jesus is here and I’m gonna get my miracle no matter what name …….. comes against me. You have to believe how powerful the God you call great really is.

[“Amens” emanate from the audience]

“He might be a great God but you have to realize that there’s a power behind it……. you know ….. the earth was formless…. it was without ……. it was void………. it was empty. There was darkness….. but it said that the Spirit hovered over the face of the deep…… and God decided one day to bring structure and order into the darkness. You know how He did it? He spoke three words…… “LET THERE”…….. I think that’s four ……. “LET THERE BE LIGHT”……. you can either have it as two or four……. “LIGHT BE” or “LET THERE BE LIGHT”. Four Words ….. “LIGHT BE”….. that’s two …… I failed Maths……… and with a SINGLE sentence……….. that’s how powerful God wa…. God was…. and God still is…. and if He says something….. it’s already done…….. it’s already done. And every time God speaks He creates……….. He activates ………….. He releases something to perform and here is blind Bartimaeus sitting ………… by the side of the road just begging.

[At this point Wells walks down to the steps of the stage and “sits” for effect]

“He’s sitting there ……. but he hears the message. He’s sitting …….. and he hears a message…… and he starts to cry out …… JESU-U-U-S! The problem is most of us don’t cry out…….. JESU-U-U-S! In the midst of everybody…… of the babble ……….. in the midst of everybody saying “Shut up man! Who do you think you are ……… you’re a Christian. ……….what good are you….. JESU-U-U-S!

23:02 Blind Bartameus ……………… his na…..name is important because the word “Bart” in Greek means “son”…….. and the word Timaeus means this ……… it means son of a blind man …….

Moderator’s’ note:
NO IT DOESN’T.

Amanda Wells continues:
“It means …… Timaeus means …… one who is unclean………… it means one who has an issue. Isn’t it interesting…….. here he was ….. Bartaemus sitting by the side of the road……. and it says ……. he was the son of Timaeus……… he was the son of someone who had an issue ……….he was the son of someone who was blind ….. he was the son of someone who had poverty issues ……… but it was right there that he said …….“Oh, I might be the son of……….. but today I’m making a change………… that what my father went through ……………….what my mother went through…………. [the audience begins to applaud in approval] ….the issues of the past are not going to effect the issues of the future.

Moderator’s note:
Since the name Timaeus means “Highly Prized”, the name Bartimaeus means Son Of He Who’s Highly Prized, or Son Of honor.

Wells begins by using the story of blind Bartimeus as her opening gambit. Unfortunately, scholars of Hebrew and Greek would very quickly have realised that she was erroneously giving the incorrect translation of certain words. Notwithstanding, even a person with little ability to pick a fraud may have noticed that she gives no less than three meanings for one word in order to provided herself with a segue into the deceitful fiction she was about to preach. Then at around 24:00 in the video, seemingly unsure as to how to set herself up for yet another fictitious claim she is about to make, she says this:

Amanda Wells continues:
24:00 “I might be the son of someone with an issue but I am not going to let that curse carry on to my next generation…….. I’m not going to let shame take over…….. I’m not going to let poverty run in my family. Blind Bartameus sat by the side of the road and he said “Today I’m going to be the first in my generation who is no longer going to be a pauper…. who is no longer going to sit in poverty….. who is no longer going to sit in shame….. I’m going to be the FIRST to make a change.……..

[Audience begins to applaud and say Amen]

“ Some of us need to turn around and say, ‘I’m going to be the first’…….. I’m not going to be the one who carries on…… that generation….

“Do you know …..I…..I…….. we have a family …. and shame…….. my brother has an IQ of about 170 I think it is …… I mean he’s way out there. His IQ is so………SO out there. I mean he’s just brilliant. My sister is brilliant but a nutter. And then I came along and I was dumb. But all through my family and even last year when I was doing the family tree, there was never education in our family. Even though we had the brains everybody just kept …. not going on and being educated. Everyone would go to school….. my Dad only went to 6th grade………… because that’s what you did……… and then before him his Dad only went to 4th grade and then went out to work. And no one had made a change. And there was something in me….. I’ve always had it…. that I wanted to be a doctor. Thank God, not a medical doctor…… I’d kill you all. But I wanted just to have the title “Doctor”.

[audience laughter]

“Well everyone else has got it….. why not me! You know ….. they call them “Doctor”, “Doctor”, “Doctor” and I haven’t got anything.

25:51 “But the problem was in most Universities I couldn’t get in because I failed school ………. I failed everything…………… and yet I KNEW that God wanted me to be a Doctor.

And so what I did was started to declare it every morning, I’d get up and look at myself in the mirror and say “Hello Doctor Amanda, how are you?” I’d practice every day!

[Audience applauds this statement]

“Until, finally one day just …….. this year ….. I found a University ….. and I actually did a little bit of dealing there …………. I said “If you will, I’ll do this”. And I ended up getting a Bursary. I ended up getting funding. Because I started to pray and I started to believe that I can be the first.

“And now I’m going through and getting my Doctorate.

[Audience applauds this statement that Wells admits to having done a back door deal in order to get a Doctorate) the question must be asked as to what reputable college or University would give a Doctorate to a proven plagiarist.]

It may take me ten years…. and I might be on a walking frame by the time I’ve finished but one day in ten years I’m comin’ in, walking frame and all and you will have to turn around and say “Hello Doctor Amanda!” Because I want to be the “first” in my family………… and I believe that’s how we need to be.

[Audience is by now engaging in continuous applause]

“ Is it easy? No…. I mean.. I started to dream this stuff and I’m like Oh Rog……. I don’t think I can do it………… but I will do it. Because my grandchild……..… I’m the one who’s making a change for my granddaughter………..

[audience shouts vocal support “Hear! Hear]

“I will be the first in my family …….… Blind Bartameus said “I will be the first”. And if your family was in poverty, don’t just sit there and say “Well, I’m the son of, so I have to be”….. you turn around and say I might be the son of………… but I’m the first son to make a change in my family.

[audience applauds and cheers]

“They’re not having poverty any more…………..it ain’t stopping wi ….…… it’s stopping right here with me. Education…. it’s stopping with me………. because I’m going to make the change”.

Transcriber’s Note:
Amanda Well’s sister was asked to comment on the personal claims in this video. Kerri’s note – “an ironic slip of the tongue. Education did indeed stop with her. She was indeed the one to make the change to attitude to education”

Moderator’s Note:
There is no evidence to suggest that Bartameus was descended from paupers. Wells once again, reveals her lack of knowledge and attention to scripture which for someone who claims to have been in “ministry” for almost 30 years, is nothing short of staggering. There is nothing to suggest that Bartameus was a victim of generational poverty and nothing more than the man’s poverty caused through his blindness can be rightfully assumed. Wells has added to the Word of God in order to lead into her own fictitious story.

Kerrie’s comments:
For Amanda Wells to link the word “shame” in any way to the educational experience of anyone in her family (other than herself if she feels it necessary) is a disgraceful act. This unscrupulous nonsense requires some attention. Notwithstanding that the first part of her talk is full of flawed theology (but I will leave that to others better qualified than I to review) which Wells nevertheless tries to use to lead into another opportunity to malign members of her own family.

Firstly, our brother does NOT have an IQ of 170 and Wells has changed this number on many different occasions in her talks over the years until it has finally grown to this ludicrous level of exaggeration. Wells’ followers, one would have thought, might have raised questions as they heard this number grow with exaggeration over time as she pulls any number out of thin air at any given time. This particular claim is another LIE of grandiose proportions and it is difficult to comprehend how sane people could sit and accept this nonsense and not engage their own common sense.

Moderator’s Note:
To prove the point, download and listen to this audio:

http://www.christiangrowthinternational.org/publisher/search.aspx?searchString=Amanda%20Wells

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Note how the IQ of her bother is radically different when she’s telling this story as opposed to the above link. 

Her claim that her sister [me] is “brilliant” is also a subjective term and one can only wonder about Wells’ definition of the word of “brilliant”. Once again, her throw-away line of her sister being a “nutter” speaks for itself if one is to judge the speaker (Wells) by the “fruits” of the Spirit. Unlike both her siblings, Wells failed to complete her High School education, which was in no way due to lack of opportunity, but rather lack of application. An examination of this nonsensical rant would show the inconsistencies in her claims. She claims she was “dumb” but then goes on to claim “Even though we had brains”, (is this a use of the Royal plural or is she including herself even after just claiming she “was dumb”?) notwithstanding that over the years Wells has continually claimed to have had psychological tests which gave credence to her low IQ in order to promote her story of misfortune. Further, Wells then goes on to state that “everyone” just kept not going on and being educated”. In fact, Wells brother completed his High School education at an age younger than most of his contemporaries, and her sister [me] also completed High School then becoming the recipient of a scholarship and continuing her studies overseas. Notwithstanding that fact, most of our ancestors were educated and many more so than their contemporaries.

Wells’ claim that it was SHE who was the person who changed the attitude to education in her family is outrageous. Given that she was the only one of the children in our family who never completed High School one wonders how she has escaped scrutiny regarding such nonsense for so many years. A discerning listener would have noted by now that Wells, in keeping with the title of her sermon, changes her story for “the season”. The point here is not whether or not Wells was as bright as her siblings, but rather the lies she weaves in order to promote a fictional story.

Our parents were diligent in ensuring that all their children had educational opportunities of which many other children could only dream. Despite Wells’ continued claims over the years that “she broke the cycle of poverty in her family”, this is complete and utter nonsense and an insult to our parents, particularly our dear father who ensured that his children led a life of considerable privilege. All three siblings attended prestigious PRIVATE schools and were given the opportunity to take up virtually any outside pursuit we desired. Wells failed to avail herself of these opportunities, showing little or no interest in applying herself to outside activities. The discerning follower would have by taken note of the myriad of times Wells herself has told of her lack of interest in education or application to her school studies. In her own words Wells has claimed that she was a “wild child” in her youth. Why Wells has continually been invited to churches over a period of many years without anyone questioning this disparity in her claims is an indictment on the individuals calling themselves “Pastors” who are supposed to be caring for the well-being of their congregation.

Moderator’s note:
Reference also video 13th March 2016 at Life Church Ipswich, Queensland, Australia where Wells gives a real insight into her real attitude to education! Wells was attempting to convince the people in Pastor Wayne Scott’s church that there was some spiritual reason as to a problem which might be apparent in his church. She managed to once again weave certain unrelated factors together in order to assist in building her “sermon”. Note that she claims “the Lord” has shown her something thus duping the unsuspecting and undiscerning into placing credence in her false claims

Dreams – Amanda Wells at Life Church Ipswich

Amanda Wells continues:
04:29 Now the next thing that I saw was in this school…… this is a school hall…. it’s where school is…. and this building…… er…..some of you intercessors need to get into prayer….. because… it’s…. because it’s a school building…. suddenly the Lord showed me that it’s a spiritual thing…. there’s a lot of apathy in here….. because school kids are apathetic….. and especially in this area…… there’s a lot of rebellion ….and apathy…. and the thing that they wanna do … school kids …. is leave school ………I mean….. me ………..that’s all I thought of all day….”I wanna leave school. I can’t wait till I get outta school. Why am I in school? I don’t’ wanna be here. Why should I be here? ….….. And the thing is … we don’t realize it but it can get round people’s mind sets without you even realizing….. that that’s what’s coming around the mind set.

And that’s why people will even leave the church……….is… because of what’s the spiritual atmosphere here that’s in the room. So I would really be breaking through that…. um …. because there’s something that I …. em…. feel it’s….. that comes in …………occasionally in here and you need to break it…..okay?

You’re lookin’ at me like I just spoke in Chinese ……. Urh………. Ah …….. [Wells gives an embarrassed laugh] and uh……… and so………. Ah we….we need to do that…. because I just felt that’s something in. in this school.”

Kerri writes:
Wells, consistently claims (including in her Business advertising) that “Presbyterian Ladies College” is her Alma Mater. In fact this was the primary (or grade school) which Wells attended. Her High school attendance began at Manly Girls’ High, a Government High School in Sydney, Australia. Her time there was so unsatisfactory that our parents actually enlisted my assistance to have colleague of mine to get her into another school. She was moved from Manly Girls High to Stella Maris Catholic College, Sydney where her time was troubled and she failed to complete her High School education. The listing of P.L.C. as her Alma Mater on all her biographies and omission of her high school education is a duplicitous attempt to hoodwink the public. Again Wells claims to have been “doing her Family Tree”, (a claim so easily de-bunked by the false statements she has made about her ancestors on so many occasions some of which I have addressed before on this site) and based on “doing her Family Tree” goes on to make statements about her ancestor’s education level. Documented evidence exists which proves this all to be utter nonsense. The ridiculous nature of her observations about the family’s education level is insulting and yet more LIES. Her assertion that no one had gone on with their education and no one had a made a change and that she was going to be the “first” is a LIE of such grandeous proportions as to defy description. Incidentally, in the interest of once again setting the record straight, our father attended High School into his mid teen years, (NOT leaving in 6th grade as she has claimed on other occasions) before leaving High School only due to his having to go to work in order to provide for his widowed mother and large family of siblings at a time in history when many young men had to make similar decisions. Our father was in fact, an avid scholar and went on to continually educate himself, becoming one of the most widely read and erudite men I have ever known. Had Wells been present at his funeral she may have learned about his difficult yet accomplished past, his intellectual pursuits and success in life which were acclaimed on that occasion. To disparage a man in this way when he is no longer here to defend himself is contemptible and reprehensible. Despite, as was the case with many people of their generation, being unable to continue tertiary education due to the social conditions of the time, both of our parents filled our home with good books, and continued to undertake further educational endeavours themselves throughout their lives. I remain both shocked and deeply ashamed that any person could lie to this extent in order to deprecate others in order to promote a fanciful story of her own.

Our mother was a very keen student and an exceptionally accomplished one in fact, and was granted entry into the then Sydney Girls High School – an ACADEMICALLY SELECTIVE school to which students were invited to enter. I still retain in my possession my mother’s letter of invitation which she treasured until her death! That our mother was unable to take up the invitations due to her family circumstances was a matter of extreme regret and one which she lamented her entire life. For Wells to claim that it was a lack of interest in education that caused my mother to have to forego this opportunity is scurrilous and cruel in the extreme.

Of course, Wells’ foolish and Narcissistic claim that she always wanted to be a “Doctor” because “everyone else had the title so why shouldn’t she” reveals Wells’ true motives in decrying everyone else’s achievements and defies reason. The Pastor of the church in which this rant took place (Lesley Yvonne EVERSON, in Swindon, England: Exhibit #3) should surely have had enough discernment, if not common sense, to see that none of what Wells was saying made any sense. Of course the duplicitous and malicious claim that her sister [me] is a “nutter” is specifically designed to deflect any questions that might arise down the track which might eventuate and threaten to expose this malicious nonsense.

One can only muse also at what was going on in the minds of people listening to her who accepted that “wanting to be called Doctor” is all the qualification one needs in order to expect such a title be bestowed on her. Were not the people in this congregation alerted to some deeply disturbing problem here when Wells claimed that she “had to do a bit of dealing” to arrange this tile she so badly covets? Is this an acceptable way for a Christian to obtain a title which would then be used to fool people into thinking she had credentials to which she was not entitled? Of course by attaching the claim that “God wanted her to be a Doctor” she does what is so rife in the visible church today; the undiscerning sheep just believe without question anything that is told to them as long as it is preceded by the blasphemous claim that “God said” or “God told me”. Why any rational person did not get up and leave at this point is a mystery to any sane person. The vanity and Narcissism evident in her claim to want to bear the title of “Doctor”, and to even be prepared to “do a little bit dealing” to obtain such an undeserved honour surely would have had any honest and sincere Christian Pastor hanging his/her head in shame that Wells had been invited into his/her church to speak to those to which a Pastor has a duty of care.

Amanda Wells continues:
27:37 [Wells climbs back to the podium and continues:]

“Where are we? ……………… We’re back at Blind Bartamaeus……………and suddenly no matter what your Mum or Dad did you can break it…………. and I believe we’ve gotta turn around and break it……. in England, you’ve gotta turn around and break some things.

“You know there’s too many things that run in families…….. let’s stand here and break it now!

27:58 “He was very strategic…. Number 2……..look at this …. he shouts out……. his name….. “JESU-U-US”….. which means Saviour, deliver……… Son of David………. in every season according to what God is doing He reveals himself by a new name.

“Adam knew Him as “The Word”…….. but to fulfill the mandate….. to subdue………..to create……… to innovate………. to multiply ……… Adam had to know God as Elohim….. which was Creator God.

“To David ….. God said “David you will be a King……. my King…… well David didn’t know what a real king looked like…………..he had ……… the only …. thing he could copy was …… was Saul ….. and so David was shown the King of Kings as we see in Psalms …….. the first time the King of Kings manifested …..

“To Joshua……” God said Joshua, I want you to go over …… and I want you take back the Promised Land…… there’s …… there’s a few “ites” in there. ….. Vegemite….Marmite…… Promite ……….. whatever. But you gotta go in there and you’ve gotta take ‘em back but to do that….. Joshua …you need to know me as the commander of the army of the Lord…

“To Abraham….. “Abraham, I want you to cut covenant. What does that look like……. I am going to show you me as a Covenant God ……. and in the 1st century Jesus showed himself as the savour and the deliver of the world.

“And so every generation has to know God and know his name…… and … because there is a new name in every season because He’s about to do a new thing. And it’s important to know the name that God wants to manifest in the season because the name you revere is the name he will manifest.

“You see … if I want …wealth….. I can’t just ask God … my … J..Jehovah Rapha…. which is “God my healer …..I have to know him as the God… of wealth. If I need my needs met… it’s not enough to just know him as Jehovah Rapha the God of Healer … I have to know him as Jehovah Jireh, the God my provider….

“Do you know Him today in the new season? Do you know the name of God for Citifaith for the new season? Do you know who God wants to manifest as in the next season? Or are we still looking at the god of the last season ………..but are you allowing God to open the next door to you and show himself strong ….and show himself as he wants to manifest in this next season to you….

30:44 “Because blind Bartamaeus didn’t just y…yell out “Uh, JESUS! Uh mate! Come ‘ere ….I need ya …..come over here!” He was actually so deliberate…. he said “Jesus! Son of David, have mercy.” He knew the name that he needed to manifest in that hour. And if you want to break something off your family……… you‘ve gotta know him….. you’ve gotta know the name of that ….. o…of … that … that bondage that you want broken… you’ve gotta knew [sic] him. If you want sickness broken you better know him as Jehovah Rapha…. my God, my healer…. whatever has been in my family is no more because he is manifesting himself as that.

[audience applauds]

“We have to know him. I believe at this hour God needs the church to know him as the God of Wealth. We’ve been poor too long. I don’t wanna be poor any longer…… don’t ya hate it?

[Adopts mocking voice…..]

“Oh, it’s so humble to be poor”……. it’s really humble! I tell you some of us are going to get a shock when we get to Heaven….. because when we get to Heaven…….. and we see God’s wealth……… um… what are you gonna say then! Isn’t God humble? I mean he got streets o’ gold………….. he had nothing else to do with it except lay TAR …. of gold.

“And so God is saying…. God … I… I …he’s saying …… “I…I want you to know me in the name that you want me revealed…. as.”

“Whatever Jesus means he can change your life at any time. Jesus means Ruth even though you’re a Moabite. You just know me and I can turn your life around and even get you in the very lineage of the the Deliverer.

“Rahab might be a prostitute ……but Rahab if you know me …… I can change your life around.

“Jesus ……. he is greater than any issue. … he is ………Jesus ….. he shouted the name …Jesus son of David …… you are the one who can reverse my curse. God has given you the anointing to carry on from David’s generation………because every generation needs to see a David ……..they need to see someone come from nothing and go into something…….. he said “Have mercy on me” …….. why …….. because he is the keeper and the trustee of mercy.

“Christ will never deal roughly with a sinner….. He will never deal roughly with you when you make a mistake

33:23 “Number 3… let me be quick as I finish…….

“Be ready to deal with opposition ……….. many rebuked him ………..“Shut up man! Be quiet. Shut up!” ………… and he said “No I’m continuing to shout. These people have no anointing to help me……….. I’m not going to listen to those around me……. I’m gonna listen to the one who has an anointing to help me.

“So many of us want to listen to everybody who’s being negative ………….but then we say [adopts mocking voice] “Oh the pastor! What’s SHE got? Well she’s got an anointing to help you! He says I’m going to the source of mercy. Jesus stopped and called him. And immediately … you see……. blind Martamaus [sic] had a cloak on….. and immediately he threw his coke …. coat off………. he jumped to his feet……. and the cloak was the cloak of hurt, poverty, shame, insignificance ……that cloak actually gave him licence to stay in the condition he was in. But he threw it down………. because he now had a revelation of another cloak that gave him licence to excel. Which …. cloak are you hiding in today? Let Jesus cover you with a new …. coat. Let him give you a new …. cloak today. Let him, give you a licence to excel.

34:45 “Let’s look at ways to deal with opposition. Number one ….. press through …nev….nevertheless…… press through ……..don’t’ worry about it………just say “I want my miracle”. David’s greatest attack came from his family…… and sometimes our greatest attack comes from those who love us…. from those who are closest to us…… and when your attack comes you’ve gotta say “I’m pressin through……….. nevertheless……… I’m focusing on my miracle and I’m pressing through.”

“Number 2….. be focused. (Ahem)….what do you want from me?……… Jesus it’s obvious. The man is blind. Jesus wants him to focus on the solution ………not on the problem. We’ve got to stop se….stop focusing on our problems and focus on our solutions.

“Number 3. And this is where I finish ………I ’m tryin to wrap it up quick. You’ve gotta shake it off…….. you gotta stand up ……..and you gotta step on it.

There was a story of a donkey …. and he was a BAD donkey. And his owner was even worse. And his owner decided one day … he was gonna bury the donkey alive. And he dug a huge hole ………. and put the donkey in it……….. and the donkey had to decide how he was going to survive …….. and so the owner was pouring dirt in …. and every time he poured the dirt in on the donkey……… the donkey would stand up on the dirt …….shhhhhhake it off…….and step on it…… another bit of dirt…… stand up….. shhhhhhake it off … and step on it …… another bit of dirt…….stand up……. sssshake it off…….. and step on it

“And sometimes when the enemy is trying to pour dirt on you ……. trying to pour his muck on you…… trying to pour his sickness on you, trying to pour his poverty on ya…… you need to stand up……… you need to shhhhhake it off ……….. [audience begins to applaud wildly] and you need to step on it!… because what ends up happening is one day you’re the same height as the man…….. you’re… just a hole has been poured in …. but you’re standin’ there and you are the same height….. because you stood up…..ya shhhhook it off ……. and ya stepped on it1

[“Amens” emanating from audience”]

‘I don’t know what you got today but you need to stand up…. ya need to reposition yourself…. ya need to say this is not gonna attack me anymore…… I‘m shakin’ off this stuff …….. and I’m gonna step on it!…… because it’s not gonna rule me anymore…….. I’m gonna rule it…………..

[applause]

37:25 Stand up …….shhhake it off ………step on it ………. it’s a new season …….don’t let the enemy …. eh…torment you ……….don’t him discourage you…… stand up….. shhhake it off….. step on it. …. don’t entertain it ……… a mosquito bite is just that ……. it’s a mozzy bite ……… but if you keep scratching it and scratching it can get gangrene. ….. you can actually lose a limb…… don’t let a mosquito bite become a wound….. don’t’ let it become poisonous…… don’t allow everything that the enemy says to you through people to become a wounding dart.

[Adopts a mocking voice again]

“Oooohhhhh, you don’t know what I’ve been through………..” ….. shake it off… step on it…… [audience laughs] make a decision….. nobody is gonna wound this soul again…………. ……….

“Whoever that girl was last night….. where you are…. make a decision….no one’s gonna wound this soul again

“Number five [Transcriber’s note: what happened to number four] and I think I only got tho three but I can’t count.

Don’t use energy focusing on what you don’t have…….. [adopts mocking voice again] “I don’t have a degree”…………. I don’t have experience………… “I’m too old”……….. Mah Word! … Sarah was old………I looked at my Sarah who went through 69 hours of labour…. and I thought “How did Sarah do it?”…… . old Sarah in the Bible. Ppppphhhh ……… if…. in this next level of possibility you are going to use what you do have….. not what you don’t.

[audience expresses approval with “amens”]

“Moses turns round to God he says …..” He …hey God…. I can’t to [indecipherable] ………..” God must have been so frustrated that he turned around and says …. “Well what do you have Moses?” ….”All I got is this rod………..” “Well use it! …Use it!”

39:10 Oprah Winfrey ….. a billionaire….. you know what…. Oprah Winfrey cannot sing to save herself…… she can’t really act all that well… I mean she sorta can….. only because she was paid a lot. But she came out to Australia …….. she stood at our Sydney Opera House….. millions had gathered everywhere. And you know what she said……

“HELLO AUSTRALEEEEAAAAA”……. D’you know she got paid millions for doing that….

[audience laughs]

“I thought “I wonder if that would happen to me… I’d stand up at the Opera house and say “ HELLO AUSTRALEEEEAAAA” and they’d probably pay me to get off……

[audience laughs]

But you know what ……. she used what she did have….. a mouth. A…and isn’t that amazing how the church will actually shut you down……”Oh, you got too big a mouth”….. I was told that all the time…….Amanda you’re too loud……. you got too big a mouth…..shut up….. and then one day God said “Amanda, just use what you do have. What do I have?….. I’ve just got a big mouth……

[audience laughs]

And if Oprah Winfrey can get paid millions…… well I reckon why can’t I…… I’ll just use my big mouth.

[audience applauds].

Moderator’s Note:
What does all this nonsense have to do with the gospel of Jesus Christ? Clearly the congregation thinks is worthy of applause which is concerning in itself!

“What do you have? Everyone’s looking at what they don’t have …. “I don’t have this…… I don’t have money……” Well make it……….. do you know I am going to talk about this tonight. God says “I want to BLESS you” …… and the problem is the church pr…..sits back and thinks Gods’ just going to bring it to me……….. but do you know the word “blessing” means I’m going to give you the strategy and the process…. to create that thing that you need.”

“And the problem is we’re sitting back [mocking voice] “Oh God just let the pastor put another bit of oil on my head and I’ll be blessed”… and God’s saying “No….. I’m going to take what you have already and I’m going to put my anointing on it and tht way you are going to become victorious and I’m going to give you triumph and I’m going to take back what the enemy stole…

“So all you have to do is use what you do have …. stop whinging about what you don’t because you probably never will have it. You know I am never going to be able to sing like Beyonce`………. thank goodness……..we don’t need two of her…. and certainly not Lady Ga Ga….. I mean …. ‘ear Lord….. have mercy!

“But you know…. I can use what I do have……… and by using what I do have….. I can be a blessing in the next season! So you and I have to locate. ..what do I have in this season…. What has God given me…….. because in this next season………. I’m going to be like Blind Bartamaeus….. I don’t care what my father and my mother had…… I don’t care what people are telling me to shut up ………… I don’t care if people are telling me I’m a loser………..I’m no good….. I know that God has given me … something….. that one thing…… and if I can just locate that one thing and I can press through in this next season………. I can be what God wants me to be……

[audience applauds]

“And in Citifaith….. what has God given you……..what do you have………. locate it…….find it…. God is saying to you “What do you want me to do for you?”….. [mocking voice again] …. Oh God…………… I’m not sure…. but I know it’s a lot ……… [audience laughs] ….. it’s everything…. I need a new body……….”

“And God’s saying “Amanda, just grow up………… what do you want me to do for you?”….. Blind Martamaeus [sic] said “I need to see”…… not that I just I need money. I need this…I need to see….because if I can see…. I can then see what you’ve given me…………I can see how to be blessed…… God, I need ….to see……….

“Father I just thank you this morning….. I thank you for what you’re doing……..I thank you …… Lord………. there is just so much … and I..…I just want to finish……b..b..but there is so much that I believe you are doing in this house. …..there is so much talent in this house……..

“Father help us to locate what it is we need. Help to locate that thing for our next season. Help us to locate our gift…… help us to locate our talent….and Father as we do that ………let us learn to stand up …….. be positioned correctly …….to shake off everything that is not of you …… and to step on every word that the enemy would try to bring around us…… every arrow that the enemy sends. ….we are going to step on it today …..because Lord ….this is a new season for Citifaith church….. the old is not going to do it… the old is not going to be enough……… this is new day…. this is a new season ….. and Father we give you honour and we give you glory.. in Jesus name”……..

“Where is that girl who is last night gave that testimony …… there you are … did you give the testimony afterwards sweetheart?………….

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