Wells’ Repudiation

Our thanks to churchwatchcentral.com. for drawing attention once again to Wells’ malevolent behaviour.

churchwatchcentral reports Wells wrote on July 22 2019:

2019-07-22 Wells rant about her sister

“Something is on my mind. Long Post

I read the article that was written in the Guardian and the SMH about the woman who went to Folau’s church and says its a sect.

I have an issue with this. I know what people say about Hillsong and CCC etc……. my sister was one. She got herself on 60 minutes and decimated Brian Houston and Hillsong, saying it was a cult and full of pedophiles and on and on, and people, particularly Christians believed her! Then she took two of Phil Pringles Pastors to court defamed them and destroyed them, meanwhile accusing CCC of all sorts of things ( easy to find on the internet)

Now if I read what she wrote, if I watch her on 60 minutes where she had her 15 minutes of fame, I have a choice do I believe what she is saying about these Pastors and their churches. (Well I have known her for years so the answer for my brother and I and the family she stayed with in America is dear God NOOOOOOO…….though many churches in Australia got sucked into her 3rd defamation and craziness) The point is I have the choice to believe someone who has an obvious issue with church, or I can believe the Bible…. don’t judge and for heaven sake do correct investigation!!!

Now lets get back to this mother…. she says Israel Folau’s church is a cult. One thing she says proves it is because they say she must be Born Again……… straight away I look and see right the church is being seen through the eyes of someone who ISN’T born again. You see beyond every other tenant of faith and doctrine THIS ONE is the ONE every Christian believes is the basic foundational tenant.

So what credence do I give when ONE WOMAN goes to a church and comes out with statements she interpreted through a filter and then goes to a newspaper…………NONE absolutely NONE, believe me from experience we should be sensible enough to take this for what it is……. and it certainly isn’t Christian LOVE

Now the next thing is that Christians who are now willing to believe these hurt women and their assault on Churches and Pastors believe what Israel said was hate speech!!!

I don’t myself agree or like what Israel wrote. I possibly wouldn’t have written it like that BUT at the same time I cant call it hate speech do you know why……… Because it is in the Bible

The day I call the words of Jesus or the words of Paul etc HATE SPEECH is the day I am rewriting the bible

You see the drunkards and the adulterers didn’t come out screaming HATE it was just one group and unfortunately the bible talks about all kinds of people and I can’t rewrite it because it challenges me, or my lifestyle and it might hurt my feelings.

I think we need to be careful calling the Bible HATE speech because someone got their knickers in a knot

Now today we have Christians saying they don’t want to be called Christians because of how churches and other Christians are behaving

All I can say is thank God Paul didn’t throw a temper tantrum and say to the Corinthians or the Galatians ‘well now because you lot are not behaving as I think you should Im not going to be part of you and not going to call myself a Christian anymore.’

No Paul said ‘let us love one another.’

Even the Folau’s, Hillsong church or ACL. Let’s understand the way they read and repeat the Bible maybe different to how we do BUT Jesus is the common denominator and nothing else.

They maybe harsh they may look like their judging BUT it is NOT for me to judge back

The Bible is full of pretty torrid words, killing babies, telling there will be people that wont walk in the Kingdom etc BUT it isn’t HATE speech its called interpretation……… maybe different for each of us, but because someone doesn’t agree with your ethos and ideology does not make them less a person, it makes them different.

It doesn’t make them less a Christian it makes them have a different opinion. The day I stand and say I don’t think so and so is a Christian because its not what I believe a Christian should like ……. IS THE DAY I JUST BECAME GOD!!!! As far as I know He hasn’t resigned His position yet”

Source: Amanda Wells, Facebook, Published July 22. (Accessed July 23, 2019.)

What we at Weeding Out Wells have to say:

Amanda Wells writes:

“Something is on my mind. Long Post

Wells would be well- advised not to post something just because it is “on her mind”.  It has landed her in a great deal of trouble in the past. To share the thoughts of a deluded mind does no one any service. She would no doubt be better off sharing these things which are “on her mind” with a trained medical professional.

Wells continues:

“I read the article that was written in the Guardian and the SMH about the woman who went to Folau’s church and says its [sic] a sect.

I have an issue with this. I know what people say about Hillsong and CCC etc……. my sister was one. She got herself on 60 minutes and decimated Brian Houston and Hillsong, saying it was a cult and full of pedophiles and on and on, and people, particularly Christians believed her! Then she took two of Phil Pringles Pastors to court defamed them and destroyed them, meanwhile accusing CCC of all sorts of things (easy to find on the internet)

Her sister was “one” what!

“She got herself on 60 Minutes”?  We see her turn of phrase has not improved any over the years.  Our investigations show that her sister didn’t “get herself” on anything.  It was apparently another member of the family who approached “60 Minutes” for assistance in exposing this story after the church attempted to cover the issue up, failed to communicate with the family and refused to co-operate with the police investigation and legal procedures.  It was the C3 church which failed to obey biblical instructions in obeying the authorities of the country and in caring for “the widows and orphans”.  All attempts to get the church to co-operate with the authorities and receiving nothing but rudeness and discourtesy and further abuse (notwithstanding the fact that there was not an offer to deal with the actual issue) the only course available was decided upon by a family member, NOT the mother in an attempt “to get herself on 60 Minutes”!  It had become clear to many people that approaching the left-hand kingdom and enlisting its willingness to deal with matters that a dangerous church and its leaders posed to the community at large, was the only course of action left to deal with the protectors of paedophiles.

Wells’ nasty turn of phrase and the way she expresses herself generally, are not indicative in any way of the courtesy she should be using when speaking of others and in no way reflect the conditions of what and how the reporting of the story occurred.  It seems her exposure as being a false prophet, a plagiarist and the shame of having her lies and fantasies disclosed publicly, have done nothing to quench her desire to be noticed and to vent whatever malicious thoughts seem to be constantly swirling around in her unstable mind.  Not only did she engage in deceit and false and misleading misrepresentation of the actual story itself once again, but she still appears to be devoid of any conscience when she airs the unconscionable thoughts she has “on her mind”.  One can only wonder at what other thoughts are “on her mind” on a daily basis that she doesn’t air publicly and whether she might not be better served reading her Bible and the instructions to Christians about self-control and bearing false witness.

It should also be noted that Wells herself, though wrongfully claiming the title of “Pastor”, at no time reached out to the family (including a child who had been raped!) and ignored the whole issue.  Later, when confronted with her negligence, she claimed that she “doesn’t listen to gossip”!  Wells claims reports of court trials in the media are “gossip”?  How convenient for her.

The “60 Minutes” segment did not decimate Brian Houston in any way whatsoever and Houston was not even mentioned during that program and nor was the Hillsong organisation!  We can find no record of anyone involved in the issue, let alone the mother in that story, claiming that Hillsong was “full of paedophiles” and attributing such a statement to the mother in the story is, no doubt, legally actionable.   Wells’ consistent habit of twisting facts when repeating anything should be of great concern and proves particularly concerning when it comes to her claiming what she does when calling herself a “pastor” and giving her incoherent interpretations of texts from the bible.  Is this not enough to have Wells followers asking her some pertinent questions and ensuring they get truthful responses?

We are confused as to Wells intention as to her throw-away descriptive phrase “on and on” but it is a vague and spurious reference at best which refers grammatically to further statements regarding Hillsong and Houston and is nothing but intended mischief.  As far as we are able to ascertain, anything that has been said about Houston or Hillsong has not be hidden or said by her sister without her sister’s full undertaking to ensure that it was expressed openly and in detail. “On and on “would not be deemed specific enough to be words coming from someone who is allegedly claiming she speaks as a pastor in a Christian Church! Incidentally, one claiming to be a “Pastor” who speaks to God personally ….. no church, no training, nothing but spurious claims for which she has since been censured severely by many in the Christian church.

The next statement that the mother in this case “took two of Phil Pringle’s Pastors to court, defamed them and destroyed them” is a blatant LIE of the most serious kind and she would be wise to immediately retract such a statement.  The mother in this story (and even the most basic of investigations would reveal it) has never taken ANY Pastor to court at any time. (Though there is little doubt that we believe the mother in this case may have failed in any conventional wisdom in not taking such an action.)

 Now it is time Ms. Wells provided proof of her allegations and claims which she has made over the years and she should start with this one.  We hereby challenge her to provide evidence and cite details of this alleged court case!  And we would think her undiscerning admirers would be anxious for her to do so in order to prove her claims to be valid.

To allege the mother in this case has defamed anyone is manifestly false, and again, requires evidence. Wells has thrown around the word “defame” many times in the past and does not seem to understand what the word means.  It means to damage someone’s reputation by making FALSE claims about them.  The story of this case has been widely reported over the years and on the record of police files and recorded by way of sworn evidence with the ROYAL COMMISSION.  Notwithstanding, the Pastors themselves have confirmed the facts of the case!  On what basis then does Wells base her claims, and if she has evidence that this story is false, she should immediately get herself down to the nearest police station and make a sworn statement in order to set the record, as she sees it, straight.   Is Wells prepared to give sworn evidence now, by way of Statutory Declaration UNDER OATH that the claims she has made in this rant are fact?  Now that would be defamatory!

Wells claim that the mother in this case has accused CCC of many things is another spurious throw-away line which holds no credibility without her specifically stating what it is she is actually claiming is false that has been said in relation to this case.  She provides no sources and no links other than “easily found on the internet”.  Where are the sources and what is it that the mother has allegedly accused CCC of which has not been sworn to and given in evidence to the police and to the Royal Commission?

We handed this on to Kerri Ferguson, the sister of Amanda Wells and requested a comment:

Kerri wrote:

The most fascinating and inexplicably hypocritical thing about this post is this.

When asked by me many years ago why Wells herself had never contacted us over the events which had involved the abuse of our family by church leaders Wells responded that didn’t know anything about it as she didn’t listen to “gossip”.

It seems that Wells has now decided that excuse has no foundation as she herself as clearly been availing herself of the details of the case on the “internet” which she now commends to others who would like to know about it.

Amanda Wells wrote further:

“Now if I read what she wrote, if I watch her on 60 minutes where she had her 15 minutes of fame, I have a choice do I believe what she is saying about these Pastors and their churches. (Well I have known her for years so the answer for my brother and I and the family she stayed with in America is dear God NOOOOOOO…….though many churches in Australia got sucked into her 3rd defamation and craziness) The point is I have the choice to believe someone who has an obvious issue with church, or I can believe the Bible…. don’t judge and for heaven sake do correct investigation!!!”

To her followers I say ………..YES do!  DO IT!  Do an intensive and full investigation! This is another spiteful, throw-away line which has now sadly become a hallmark of Wells’ rants.  She refers to my alleged “15 minutes of fame”.  I suspect if she cared to be truthful for a change she would admit that I have had much more than her spitefully labelled “15 minutes of fame” over the years, a fact which seems to upset her for some reason known only to herself.  I neither seek “fame”, nor do I desire it, which is no doubt difficult for someone who travels the world claiming to “speak for God”,  falsely prophesying, plagiarising other’s books and material and endlessly producing videos of herself giving unqualified advice to others, to understand.

Does she have a choice to believe what has been claimed about “these Pastors and their churches”?  Indeed she does!  Most intelligent people exercising integrity would investigate the matters with which she appears to take issue and discover the truth through documents, sworn evidence, police reports etc.  It is not difficult to do.  Is she calling the CCC Pastors themselves liars? She certainly appears to be since those who have been mentioned in my family’s story have admitted to their behaviour, with one even boldly pronouncing in one case, that “he would do it again”.  Incidentally he gave evidence to that effect IN COURT, UNDER OATH…….

Just exactly what “churches got sucked into” my “alleged” 3rd defamation and craziness”.  

What is the meaning of “3rd defamation” Wells is using in this instance?   

Weeding Out Wells continues:

“Now lets get back to this mother…. she says Israel Folau’s church is a cult. One thing she says proves it is because they say she must be Born Again……… straight away I look and see right the church is being seen through the eyes of someone who ISN’T born again. You see beyond every other tenant of faith and doctrine THIS ONE is the ONE every Christian believes is the basic foundational tenant.

So what credence do I give when ONE WOMAN goes to a church and comes out with statements she interpreted through a filter and then goes to a newspaper…………NONE absolutely NONE, believe me from experience we should be sensible enough to take this for what it is……. and it certainly isn’t Christian LOVE.

Wells would be on very dangerous ground if she attempted to convince anyone that she herself was “born again”!

Not only are claims of having put away her habit of lying in her youth aside, but she even progressed over the years to lying about lying! 

Hebrews 10:26-30  If we deliberately keep on sinning after we have received the knowledge of the truth, no sacrifice for sins is left, but only a fearful expectation of judgment… [30] For we know him who said…“The Lord will judge his people.”

Ephesians 4:22-24  …to put off your old self, which is being corrupted by its deceitful desires; to be made new in the attitude of your minds; and to put on the new self, created to be like God in true righteousness and holiness.

When confronted about her behaviour on previous occasions, Wells replied. (shown in her own handwriting. See previous posts on this site.)

Wells letter page 4 - Copy (2) on TRUTH

She then went on to continue shamefully lying about her past, her experience, her credentials until she was eventually removed from her positions in the church she attended and discarded by the meretricious Australian Prophetic Council and the Elijah List when her mates could no longer take the heat she was producing.  However, she warned publicly that if she was identified as a wolf she would come back “leading the pack” (see post) below.

 Still, for reasons inexplicable to any rational or sane human being, three people “Liked” the post, and some people panted after her and were led by the nose by her – regardless of what she said or did.  She made good on her claim and did indeed come back, “leading the pack” …… but now hidden in the shadows and by the protection of others, equally as misguided, as is only to be expected of any coward.   That anyone would knowingly follow a self-proclaimed “wolf” and become part of the willing pack themselves, defies explanation.  The Bible tells us to EXAMINE all things and hold on to that which is good……….. it is not “examining something” to take the word of fool and a deliberate liar with a history of disgraceful behaviour and relating fantasies in order to fleece people of money and feed a habit of requiring acknowledgement, it is simply folly… or worse, mocking God and his Word.

 DO NOT TAKE THIS PROVEN SCAM ARTIST’S WORD FOR ANYTHING.  Ignore all her claims, INCLUDING THE FACT THAT SHE “HAS PROOF”!  ASK TO SEE this “proof” for yourself!  In fact, you should demand it!  And examine it as the bible instructs us to do.  If you prefer to take Wells’ word over your own common sense, then your fate is chosen by you and it will not be pleasant as the Bible informs us.

Now what is it that Wells is actually trying to say? As is her ingrained habit (a symptom of pathological lying) Wells has attempted to once again tie in personal relationships and imagined personal knowledge into a post in order to lure people into her web of deceit.  It is ill-advised that she should take a dangerous path, and the people she has attempted to draw to her side by way of this post will no doubt not thank her in the end when this opens them and their past up to scrutiny as well.

Wells continues:

“Now the next thing is that Christians who are now willing to believe these hurt women and their assault on Churches and Pastors believe what Israel said was hate speech!!!

I don’t myself agree or like what Israel wrote. I possibly wouldn’t have written it like that BUT at the same time I cant call it hate speech do you know why……… Because it is in the Bible

The day I call the words of Jesus or the words of Paul etc HATE SPEECH is the day I am rewriting the bible

You see the drunkards and the adulterers didn’t come out screaming HATE it was just one group and unfortunately the bible talks about all kinds of people and I can’t rewrite it because it challenges me, or my lifestyle and it might hurt my feelings.

I think we need to be careful calling the Bible HATE speech because someone got their knickers in a knot

This indescribably illogical rant is simply is just more of what Wells has resorted to in the past.  On the surface she sounds to the undiscerning ear as if she is being righteous and speaking sense but on close inspection and to those familiar with the ravings of a disturbed mind, it is patently obvious that it is “marshmallow” tactics to rope in those who might WANT to believe in her and what she is saying.  Wells, in her typical fashion has latched on to culturally popular terms and tried to make them fit her narrative. 

And for Wells to say she “can’t re-write” the Bible is ludicrous as it is what she has traded off doing for years.  If one listens to Pastor Chris Rosebrough’s reviews on You Tube and avails themselves of the churchwatchcentral site on the Internet one will be made aware of a myriad of occasions when Wells has indeed attempted to re-write the Bible! 

Notwithstanding, Wells has claimed publicly that she is able to improve on God’s work by posting this as part of her advertising.  She claims that she can make God’s call on your life “more possible and more credible” (because of course God is so impotent He cannot do anything without her there to improve on His work! Even the most naïve and unthinking of people cannot surely believe that God needs anyone, let alone Ms. Well to make the call on your life more credible. To put oneself above the Creator of the Universe in this way is not only dangerous but delusional in the extreme and a sign that the writer is in need of professional assistance. 

AAA Amanda Wells - Claim about making God's call more authentic

 “Now today we have Christians saying they don’t want to be called Christians because of how churches and other Christians are behaving

This what is known in the psychological profession as “projection”. Psychological projection involves projectingundesirable feelings or emotions onto someone else, rather than admitting to or dealing with the unwanted feelings.

Wells continues:

“All I can say is thank God Paul didn’t throw a temper tantrum and say to the Corinthians or the Galatians ‘well now because you lot are not behaving as I think you should Im [sic] not going to be part of you and not going to call myself a Christian anymore.’

No Paul said ‘let us love one another.’

Even the Folau’s, Hillsong church or ACL. Let’s understand the way they read and repeat the Bible maybe different to how we do BUT Jesus is the common denominator and nothing else.

They maybe harsh they may look like their judging BUT it is NOT for me to judge back

The Bible is full of pretty torrid words, killing babies, telling there will be people that wont walk in the Kingdom etc BUT it isn’t HATE speech its called interpretation……… maybe different for each of us, but because someone doesn’t agree with your ethos and ideology does not make them less a person, it makes them different.

It doesn’t make them less a Christian it makes them have a different opinion. The day I stand and say I don’t think so and so is a Christian because it’s not what I believe a Christian should like ……. IS THE DAY I JUST BECAME GOD!!!! As far as I know He hasn’t resigned His position yet”

Source: Amanda Wells, Facebook, Published July 22. (Accessed July 23, 2019.)

Given Wells’ history of nasty, malicious posts of others it is interesting that she constantly exhorts her readers to “love one another”.  The hypocrisy is mind-boggling.

And so we remind readers of Pauls’ words, since Wells appears so keen to so frequently  quote him:

1 Corinthians 5:11  But now I am writing to you that you must not associate with anyone who claims to be a brother or sister but is sexually immoral or greedy, an idolater or slanderer, a drunkard or swindler. Do not even eat with such people.

God does not take a tolerant attitude towards believers who knowingly choose to live in sin. 

Romans 2:5 ESV 

But because of your hard and impenitent heart you are storing up wrath for yourself on the day of wrath when God’s righteous judgment will be revealed. …

James 3:1-2 ESV

Not many of you should become teachers, my brothers, for you know that we who teach will be judged with greater strictness. For we all stumble in many ways. And if anyone does not stumble in what he says, he is a perfect man, able also to bridle his whole body.

Hebrews 10:26 ESV

For if we go on sinning deliberately after receiving the knowledge of the truth, there no longer remains a sacrifice for sins,

1 John 3:9 ESV /

No one born of God makes a practice of sinning, for God’s seed abides in him, and he cannot keep on sinning because he has been born of God.

Matthew 7:21-23 ESV

“Not everyone who says to me, ‘Lord, Lord,’ will enter the kingdom of heaven, but the one who does the will of my Father who is in heaven. On that day many will say to me, ‘Lord, Lord, did we not prophesy in your name, and cast out demons in your name, and do many mighty works in your name?’ And then will I declare to them, ‘I never knew you; depart from me, you workers of lawlessness.’

1 John 3:6 ESV

No one who abides in him keeps on sinning; no one who keeps on sinning has either seen him or known him.

Luke 6:46 ESV

“Why do you call me ‘Lord, Lord,’ and not do what I tell you?

Incidentally it is worth noting that upon questioning her sister, we discover that Wells has not yet responded to her sister’s challenge to meet her face-to-face and discuss her accusations in a public forum of WELL’S choice.

Her sister has assured us that the invitation is still on the table!

 

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